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To: Getready
Although Mungo Man has been re-dated to an ealier age, he's still an enigma.

Tuesday, 9 January, 2001, 16:35 GMT

Fossil challenge to Africa theory

Bone fragments were examined for ancient DNA

Australian scientists say analysis of the oldest DNA ever taken from skeletal remains challenges the theory that all modern humans can trace their recent ancestry to Africa.

What our evidence shows is that the situation is much more complicated than any of these supporters of Out of Africa would have imagined

The study is based on the 60,000-year-old so-called Mungo Man skeleton, which was unearthed in New South Wales in 1974, and nine other anatomically modern Australian individuals who lived 8-15,000 years ago.

The Australian National University team looked at the DNA found in the mitochondria of these ancient people's cells. mtDNA, as it is known, is inherited only from females and also mutates - errors appear - at a steady rate, meaning it can be used as a "molecular clock" to investigate human history.

Mungo Man

Discovered at Lake Mungo in far west NSW in 1974 Had been covered in red ochre during a burial ritual Hands were interlocked and positioned over the penis Found in same area as cremated remains of female skeleton known by local Aborigines as Mungo Lady Recent lab studies of this type have suggested that our most recent common ancestor lived less than 200,000 years ago in Africa.

But the Australian researchers contend that the DNA sequences isolated from Mungo Man's bones show him to have a genetic lineage that is both older and distinct from this line.

Given the undoubted modern appearance of Mungo Man, they argue, major doubt must now be cast on the so-called "Out of Africa" hypothesis in which all living people are said to be descended from a group of modern humans who left their African homeland no earlier than about 120,000 years ago.

Alternative explanation

"What our evidence shows is that the situation is much more complicated than any of these supporters of Out of Africa would have imagined," lead researcher Dr Alan Thorne said.

Dating has put the age of the Mungo Man remains at between 56,000 and 68,000 years

"They were arguing that because the earliest forms of this particular genetic sequence in living people was found in Africa, that meant that all people must have come from Africa.

"Well, logically, that's not true anymore because we now have an older form of indisputably modern human that comes out of Australia."

Dr Thorne, whose team have published their research in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, is a proponent of the alternative, multi-regional explanation for the emergence of modern humans.

This suggests that modern humans arose simultaneously in Africa, Europe and Asia from one of our predecessors, Homo erectus, who left Africa more that 1.5 million years ago.

"Modern humans didn't just come from one area, they came from all areas," Dr Thorne said. "We assert that when people began to leave Africa about two million years ago, they were the ancestors of all modern people and we don't think modern humanity emerged from one place later on.

European studies

"We simply say that here we have a form much older than anything found in Africa and there's no evidence that it, or the skeletal anatomy of the fossil that it comes from, ever had anything to do with Africa. In fact, the skeleton looks very much like slightly earlier fossils that we know were in China."

Dr Alan Thorne supports the multi-regional explanation for the emergence of modern humans

But Out of Africa supporters are not about to let go of their beliefs because of the Australian research. Professor Chris Stringer, from the Natural History Museum in London, UK, said that, given experience with European fossils, there was some doubt over whether DNA analysis of such old samples was reliable. And he said the research community would want to see the work repeated in other labs before major conclusions were drawn from the Australian research.

But even assuming the DNA sequences were correct, Professor Stringer said it could just mean that there was much more genetic diversity in the past than was previously realised.

There is no evidence here that the ancestry of these Australian fossils goes back a million or two million years

Prof Chris Stringer, Natural History Museum "What it says is that some of that genetic diversity has been lost today," he told BBC News Online. "This sequence could have been in Australia and in Africa. In other words, it might have been in Africa 200,000 years ago, [it] came out with some of the African people and then got lost.

"There is no evidence here that the ancestry of these Australian fossils goes back a million or two million years, which is the multi-regional prediction."

19 posted on 04/02/2005 3:26:57 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

That's another problem...how can so called "random" mutations
occur at a "regular" rate? This concept is not particularly
new. Wilson and Sarich in 1969 postulated that the molecular
genetic clocks mutated at regular rates and that allowed them
to think that they could "time" when the primates diverged
into their respective lines. But the same problem...how
does a "random" process mutate at a regular rate? Maybe
it's not random. Maybe it has no bearing on the issue.

P.S....another conundrum is ...why don't living things "back-mutate?"
Could the weather, or whatever environmental influence
is allowing the mutation to survive also reverse?...What
would that concept do to the interpretation of the fossil
record??? I assume there is no evidence for that...why not?
Let's face it, bilogically speaking, the bacteria, and viruses
, and the insects seem to be better fit for this earthly environment,
then mammals...why did they "evolve" to a more precarious
position???? Please no funny comments, like "because it's there.!"


33 posted on 04/04/2005 10:56:12 AM PDT by Getready ((...Fear not ...))
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