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Terri Schiavo Cremated Amid Family Feud
Fox News Alert ^ | 4/2/05 | Fox News

Posted on 04/02/2005 11:39:29 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Edited on 04/02/2005 5:10:27 PM PST by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: OkieAcres
I know nothing other than what I said, which works against him being a corrupt ME. It would not be surprising if nothing were found in the autopsy regarding whether ME caused her collapse -- it was 15 years ago and she's experienced a lot of neglect in the meantime.

Of course, we will never know.

201 posted on 04/02/2005 1:35:56 PM PST by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "You're a luminary!" -- Howlin; "You are a wise man." -- Torie)
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To: newzjunkey

man..what medical records have you been looking at? or like the MSM are you making all this stuff up?????

the medical records show NO EVIDENCE of either an eating disorder or heart attack... geez . you're insane!


202 posted on 04/02/2005 1:36:27 PM PST by Awestruck (Yes, prayer does help and it is important~!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

They wasted NO TIME!!!! May they ROT in HELL!


203 posted on 04/02/2005 1:36:57 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: beckysueb

I read somewhere in a thread here on FR that the law in Florida was changed some years back to require autopsies on all bodies to be cremated.


204 posted on 04/02/2005 1:37:14 PM PST by swmobuffalo (the only good terrorist is a dead one)
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To: OkieAcres
BREAKING: Factoid of the hour - Jon R. Thogmartin, M.D taught a course on "Strangulation and Other Compressions"

Jon R. Thogmartin, M.D. District Chief Medical Examiner, Pinellas County, FL

* According to the Medical Examiner’s Office, “The mission of the Medical Examiner’s
office is to fulfill the needs outlined in F.S. 406, to be of service to families of the deceased,
and local government agencies. In short, our mission is to determine the cause
and manner of death under certain circumstances.
This mission requires the utmost objectivity irrespective of personal beliefs or emotional attachment to the circumstances of any particular case.”
* Started the job in 2000.
* “His major fields of interest are wound ballistics, firearms, infant deaths,
child abuse, asphyxia, and forensic toxicology. ”

* “Thogmartin has also done his share of teaching. In Texas, beginning in 1984,
he was a teaching assistant at Southern Methodist in the Department of Chemistry,
and at the University of Health Science Center at San Antonio in the Departments of
Cellular and Structural Biology and Pathology. More recently, in Miami, at the
Dade County Medical Examiner Office and IACP Seminar,
he taught a course on Strangulation and Other Compressions."

Support Staff:
Noel Palma, M.D., Deputy Chief Medical Examiner
Susan Ignacio, M.D., Associate Medical Examiner
Chris Wilson, M.D., Associate Medical Examiner
Daniel Schultz, M.D., Associate Medical Examiner
William A. Pellan, Director of Investigations
Reta Newman, M.A., Director of PCFL
Maybe


BREAKING: FReepers: Did Michael Shiavo attend ANY of Jon R. Thogmartin's courses on "Strangulation and Other Compressions"?
Did they both teach how to execute for Greer and the Scientologists?

Anyone have the syllabus? attendees?


205 posted on 04/02/2005 1:37:56 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: AmishDude

The second ME should be MS.


206 posted on 04/02/2005 1:38:47 PM PST by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "You're a luminary!" -- Howlin; "You are a wise man." -- Torie)
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To: Fudd Fan

Wanting Justice does not make you a bad person. Good people want Justice, and should strive for it!


207 posted on 04/02/2005 1:39:50 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: swmobuffalo
Here you go:

Judgenfuhrer George Greer's biography

The Rule of Terri's Case Strikes Again. -2004- Judge Greer's crimes to Murder Terri

Law conveniently changed by Hospice where Terri was Judicially murdered

Scientology and Terri Schindler's Murder

Lawyer donations to the Murdering Judge

MICHAEL SCHIAVO's private Insurance company
JERGER & CENTONZE INSURNACE AGENCY, INC.
Notice how 'insurance' is conveniently misspelled and his squeeze's name is misspelled, too

MICHAEL SCHIAVO'S lies and contradictory testimony in easy to read format

208 posted on 04/02/2005 1:40:04 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

Don't confuse em with the facts!!! It just makes em mad..


209 posted on 04/02/2005 1:40:12 PM PST by Awestruck (Yes, prayer does help and it is important~!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
I'm not sure it was all that fast. If you're not going to embalm a body, cremation must occur pretty quickly or it gets pretty nasty.

The autopsy got all the information they'll ever need to answer questions.

210 posted on 04/02/2005 1:40:43 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: MplsSteve
Wasn't room 174 the place where they starved and tortured that woman to death because she was gonna leave their "church"?

Partially correct. Lisa McPherson was starved and dehydrated to death after she suffered an emotional breakdown at the age of 36.

In Scientology, when a person falls to 2 or below on the Emotional Tone Scale devised by L. Ron Hubbard, they cease to be worthy human beings. Scientology preaches the utopian notion of a fit, healthy, able-bodied and perfect society. Mentally and physically disabled persons are afforded no rights in The Church of Scientology. They're seen as a burden on society ("useless eaters", if you will), and hence, they must be destroyed.

It's the same type of totalitarian self-help/only-the-strong-survive philosohy that the nazis use to take Europe, only its been modified for modern western culture.

It's just Lucifer, wearing a different mask and using the different tools at his disposal.

211 posted on 04/02/2005 1:40:54 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: koba37

Sorry, honey. Other doctors have disputed that "fact."


212 posted on 04/02/2005 1:41:03 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: GeekDejure
So you did everything in your power to save her, and Jeb did everything in his power to save her. Where does the coward part come in?

Do you really want Governors running around opposing court decisions by force? I can think of some Governors that I think less of than the judicial system. Bill Clinton running around with the Arkansas state police and the National guard may have raised a few conservative eyebrows. I certainly don't want my democrat Governor(Henry) to go rogue and start backing up his personal beliefs with the state police.
213 posted on 04/02/2005 1:41:31 PM PST by OkieAcres
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To: Fudd Fan

How about taking a big bite out of my Fl a$$


214 posted on 04/02/2005 1:41:42 PM PST by cksharks (ew prayers for them because they will need it.)
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To: Theodore R.

Hey - not all of the people of Florida cheer those monsters.


215 posted on 04/02/2005 1:43:02 PM PST by PatriotGirl827 (Member of the Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: kingattax

True. All I know is that we starved & dehydrated a disabled person to death, by court order. I'm still trying to get my head around that very ugly reality. Setting everything else aside, I can't help but wonder....who's next?


216 posted on 04/02/2005 1:44:00 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: silverleaf
The autopsy was perfromed in Pinellas county and the Sheriff's office was involved. They would NOT allow anyone outside the county to be present, though someone offered and was refused.

The results CANNOT be trusted.

217 posted on 04/02/2005 1:44:10 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: Dog Gone
The autopsy got all the information they'll ever need to answer questions.

Well... that's a relief.

218 posted on 04/02/2005 1:44:15 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("We'd rather have you dead than incapable" - The Church of Scientology)
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To: OkieAcres

I think this case transcends politics. It does not matter who appointed them: ME, the Judges, the bureaucrats in this county. All are following a pattern of beliefs they personally hold. They also will be PERSONALLY held accountable for their decisions, if not in this life in the next...
It is not for us to punish their appalling behaviour, I will leave that to God.


219 posted on 04/02/2005 1:44:58 PM PST by antceecee
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To: Zeppelin
The sad part is what we did to her. However, she is in a much better place I'm sure. The murderers may have gotten what they wanted, but she's better off now than they'll ever be, I'm sure. (not to pass judgement on anyone!)

Ah...the irony! lol...

220 posted on 04/02/2005 1:45:05 PM PST by DCPatriot (Charter member in the WPPFF and Class of 98.)
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