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To: quidnunc

Oh the irony... this is what Christianity does to Judaism.


4 posted on 04/02/2005 11:45:19 AM PST by thoughtomator ("The Passion of the Opus" - 2 hours of a FReeper being crucified on his own self-pitying thread)
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To: thoughtomator
Oh the irony... this is what Christianity does to Judaism.

:-)

10 posted on 04/02/2005 11:52:01 AM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: thoughtomator

What?


14 posted on 04/02/2005 11:59:41 AM PST by roylene
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To: thoughtomator
You could say that Christianity "improves" on Judaism, but it would be more accurate to say that Christianity fulfills Judaism. Judaism promised the Messiah (literally, the Anointed One) who would bring salvation. Jesus came in fulfillment of the Jewish law and Jewish prophets. That's why He is called "Christ" - the Greek equivalent of "Messiah".

The first covenant - the covenant of Moses - passed away, to be replaced by a new covenant - as Jeremiah prophesied (chapter 31:31-34). In Hebrews, the author writes, "By calling this covenant 'new,' he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear." Christ Himself referred to "the new covenant in my blood."

There is no way that Islam can even conceivably do the same thing with Christianity. There is no opening in Christianity like there is in Judaism. Judaism promises an "Anointed One"; Jesus came as the Anointed One - priest, king, and God Himself. No one can be to Christ what Christ was to Moses - least of all a murdering, child-molesting highwayman like Mohammed.
19 posted on 04/02/2005 12:13:23 PM PST by Irish Rose (Some people march to the beat of a different drummer. And some people tango!)
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To: thoughtomator

No, not even close. We just took the old testament. We didn't change anything in it.


23 posted on 04/02/2005 12:22:22 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: thoughtomator
Oh the irony... this is what Christianity does to Judaism.

How exactly is that accomplished?

46 posted on 04/02/2005 1:28:28 PM PST by Fiat volvntas tva (I believe in order that I may understand. (St. Augustine))
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To: thoughtomator
Oh the irony... this is what Christianity does to Judaism.

It would seem so to the weak mind, but in fact, Christianity does not reject pre-Christian Jewish scripture. Islam believes that everything after Abraham was a lie. Since Genesis is actually attributed to Moses, that would basically mean the Bible in its entirety is bunk.

69 posted on 04/02/2005 5:10:07 PM PST by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "You're a luminary!" -- Howlin; "You are a wise man." -- Torie)
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To: thoughtomator
Oh the irony... this is what Christianity does to Judaism.

Are you saying that teaching of Koran is in such relations to the Gospels as Gospels are to the Law of Moses?

Did you read either?

70 posted on 04/02/2005 6:00:58 PM PST by A. Pole (Sun Tzu: ""Foreknowledge [...]cannot be found out by calculation. It must be obtained from people.")
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To: thoughtomator
Not quite. The Jewish Old Testament predicts over and over again the coming of a redeemer. The Christian says Jesus is that Christ the Jew says it has not come to pass. All the old law remains in effect except those things spelled out in the Gospels and Acts, mostly the clothing and dietary rules.
99 posted on 04/04/2005 6:59:47 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
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