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Canada: Election chatter grows amid talk of devastating Gomery testimony( Testimony banned)
Canadian Press ^ | 03/01/05 | Alexander Panetta

Posted on 04/01/2005 10:51:55 PM PST by Pikamax

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To: Allan
Liberals truly represent the average Canadian. They represent the best in Canadian society. Hi Allan.... If I may, Liberals truly represent the average Canadian, but WE CONSERVATIVES represent the best in Canadian society. :^)
41 posted on 04/02/2005 7:39:50 PM PST by JudyinCanada (I can't wait, the dream is coming true and I will stand in front of the box to put my heart into it.)
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To: JudyinCanada
As the old saying goes:

"Our best is none too good."

42 posted on 04/02/2005 7:41:13 PM PST by Allan
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for the ping!


43 posted on 04/02/2005 8:34:53 PM PST by Alamo-Girl (Please donate monthly to Free Republic!)
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To: conservative in nyc

Correct. I have identified about 60-65 seats that are 'safe' for the Liberals. There are about 10-13 in Atlantic Canada, 13-16 in Quebec, 27-32 in Ontario, 2 in Manitoba and 4-5 in British Columbia, plus 1 of the 3 Arctic seats.

Their strongest regions are the West Island of Montreal and the City of Toronto except near downtown (LIB-NDP).

Realistically, barring the annhialation of the Fiberals, I can see the Conservatives getting 12-14 seats in Atlantic Canada, 55-63 in Ontario, 10-11 in Manitoba, sweeps of Saskatchewan and Alberta (42 total) and 24-27 in British Columbia, plus 1 in the Arctic (Yukon). That leaves them with about 145-158 seats, just on the majority line, with NO seats in Quebec.

That assumes about 20-24 seats land with the NDP and about 58-62 seats land with the Bloc Quebecois.

The best coalition in that case: maverick Liberals-in-name-only.


44 posted on 04/02/2005 8:48:49 PM PST by Heartofsong83
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To: Pikamax

A break fro Captain Ed Morrisey:

Canada's Corruption Scandal Breaks Wide Open (Captain Ed prints Gomery Commission Leak)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1376471/posts


45 posted on 04/03/2005 3:55:34 AM PDT by pending
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To: fanfan

I concur...Dithers and the sewage caked Ditherals are going down this time....only a criminal or a masochist could support them.

My greatest fear is a minority Conservative government...it will be savaged unmercifully by the Kanukistan red media .


46 posted on 04/03/2005 11:32:32 PM PDT by wlyonmackenzie
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To: longtermmemmory

Although we Albertans are on friendly terms with America and in many ways we are ideological soul mates....we would prefer to become a Canadian free state. I worked on 2 Alberta separatist campaigns and the committed separatists are about 10% with 20% soft separatists. Another federal liberal raid like the NEP will propell the separation party into high gear...remember that dip shit Martin has Moe Strong ( UN) in his office and is determined to shove Kyoto down the oil producer's throats...there's war smoke on the horizon between the Ditherals and Alberta.


47 posted on 04/03/2005 11:38:53 PM PDT by wlyonmackenzie
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To: JudyinCanada
The Conservatives need to realistically break through in French Canada. But Francophone Canadians are so disillusioned by the Liberals that they won't trust any other English-speaking party and will park their votes with the Bloc. If the Conservatives want to lead a majority Government, the trust of the Quebecois will have to be earned.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
48 posted on 04/03/2005 11:50:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Amazing! The testimony implicates Cretin in the chicanery that took place. How does this judge expect such evidence to remain under seal?


49 posted on 04/04/2005 12:14:19 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: Prince Charles
How does this judge expect such evidence to remain under seal?

See this thread

50 posted on 04/04/2005 12:19:13 AM PDT by Allan
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To: Allan

Wow. I wasn't even aware of this scandal until I started reading this thread.

The liberals and lying leftist press in Canada seem to have a turnkey operation underway -- one arm doles out the campaign cash, while the other arm does its best to keep the lid on it all.

Anyway, I hope the conservatives can turn it all to their advantage. :)


51 posted on 04/04/2005 12:35:08 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: geedee
In theory, it prevents a two-party monopoly and would be keeping Republicans on their toes in fear of losing their seats to Libertarian or Constitutionalists.

In practice, it seems to pull the whole nation leftward; for example, the Democratic party promises free health care, but the Socialist party promises free health care AND free housing. Result: 35% of our representatives Socialists, minimum, because that's about the percentage who think there's really a such thing as free food.

IMHO if we really wanted to look at a system that was biased in the favor of personal accountability, we should take a page from the Founding Fathers and restrict voting rights.

52 posted on 04/04/2005 12:44:23 AM PDT by Nataku X (Food for Thought: http://web2.airmail.net/scsr/)
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To: colocho

if that pass, there will be a civil war between the Indians and Quebec government.


54 posted on 04/04/2005 7:11:28 PM PDT by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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To: Allan

Anyone know what the big hoopla that was in the Gomery Inquiry that cannot be published? As a concerned Canadian I'd like to know.

A Former Liberal Supporter but now a full fleged dyed in the blue Conservative


55 posted on 04/05/2005 7:42:16 AM PDT by calguy
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To: geedee

As I understand it, the government didn't make a publication ban. They can't. I believe three of the witnesses who have been called to testify are facing criminal charges, and they've asked the judge to impose a publication ban until after their trials are over because they're afraid it'll prejudice their cases. The judge has agreed to institute a publication ban temporarily (while he thinks about it), but he's supposed to be likely to lift the ban this week.


56 posted on 04/05/2005 8:56:58 PM PDT by turner
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To: fanfan

a conservative government in canada? starring Stephen Harper as the android leader? Stockwell Day as foreign affaris cruitic? that's quite funny....and it'll never happen...funny how Bush loving, Fox watching hayseeds and wing nuts can clamour and shout about winning anelection when all the facts are not out...the only conservative votes that'll be forthcoming in any fed electionwill be a few from BC,all of the Alberta vote and a few from Ontario...the Conservatives in Canada are at best, laughable, even if the Liberals did go overboard with sperading cash around PQ in a fit of soverign desperation, they still have the experience and the will to stop the scary fundamentalist hayseeds...


57 posted on 04/07/2005 3:13:10 PM PDT by umv (hayseeds and people who are gullible enough to believe Fox is the gospel...get a life already)
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To: wlyonmackenzie

you ought to re-phrase the "we Albertan's" when you talk of being friendly with the US...the only reason some Albertans are friendly with the US is that there are economic (oil) ties that, at this pointm, cannot be severed...the US is falling fast, economically and socially...kinda like the Roman Empire did and all other great civilizations...the US had their hey day, the 20th century, and like it or not, the reality of the 21st century is that China/Asia will be the place on earth that decides who eats first: China is now the big dog, not Bush and his right wing whack jobs....Alberta seperate? and do what? join the US where mounting federal debt is setting to boondoggle even Greenspan and bring the US to its knees in very short order? You're a funny guy. I think though, that it would be better if Alberta stays in Canada and stops selling our tar sand oil to China, who is busy buying up large amounts of the Canadian oil business....the Chinese are not stupid and they are not blinded or bound by cowboy tradtions..things change.


58 posted on 04/07/2005 3:24:50 PM PDT by umv (hayseeds and people who are gullible enough to believe Fox is the gospel...get a life already)
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To: conservative in nyc
Do you not have the equivalent of the fifth amendment? Did Mr. Brault have to answer questions posed at the inquiry? Was he granted immunity? Why not have a closed session instead of a publication ban?

These at least are intelligent questions.

The principle of due process applies, but the mechanisms are different than those provided by the U.S. constitution. I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that Jean Brault's testimony cannot be used by the prosecution in Brault's upcoming criminal trial; on the other hand, he cannot refuse to answer questions put to him by the commission. An outright refusal to answer any questions would be considered contempt of the proceeding and could result in Brault being fined or jailed.

If this commission were taking place in the U.S. under U.S. law, Brault's testimony would have been over very quickly. After getting past name, rank and serial number, he probably would have one stock answer for every question: "On the advice of counsel, I am exercising my rights under the Fifth Amendment", or words to that effect. Even though Brault has been a co-operative, even enthusiastic witness, it would have been extremely foolish for him to admit his role in the whole affair if his testimony could be used to convict him.

As for the question of why a publication ban rather than having an in camera session, the intent was not secrecy per se (it's a public inquiry), but to preserve Brault's right to a fair trial by avoiding prejudicial reporting. The publication ban always came with an expiry date: the day Brault and Guite are convicted or acquitted.

59 posted on 04/07/2005 4:03:20 PM PDT by gstq (God Save the Queen!)
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To: spanalot
Is it a surprise that Canada also gave us the first concentration camps?

Ever hear of Andersonville? (a.k.a. the fifth largest city in the Confederacy)

60 posted on 04/07/2005 4:22:39 PM PDT by gstq (God Save the Queen!)
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