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To: jackbenimble
Yeah, I'm sure the United States would be on its economic knees if we did not have Mexico on our Southern Border. /sarc

If we are employing 30 million illegal immigrants at $1hr to build our houses, pick our vegetables, clean our houses, watch our kids, mow our lawns, clean our pools, cook our food - etc etc etc - and they suddenly vanished back from whence they came, who's going to replace them at that wage? Or should we just, as a nation, decide to do without those services?

Do you honestly believe we can pay Americans the same wages for the same work? Economically, if that were true, we WOULDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM.

Migrants migrate because they can find jobs, jobs that Americans either can't or won't do, by definition. If you drive by the day job hiring spots in my part of Northern VA, you won't see many white union guys muscling the brown latinos out of the way to work for $2hr.

I don't like it, at all - I'm more than willing to pay the difference - BUT MOST AMERICANS ARE NOT.

We're not in this fix because Mexicans are just determined to come to the US, we're in this fix because WE KEEP PAYING THEM TO DO IT.

35 posted on 04/02/2005 6:28:35 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx
RE: I don't like it, at all - I'm more than willing to pay the difference - BUT MOST AMERICANS ARE NOT.

I agree and you'd think that we'd never done it.

Well, guess what. We never did.

I remember how it was before they came to "build our houses, pick our vegetables, clean our houses, watch our kids, mow our lawns, clean our pools, cook our food - etc etc etc."

There was nothing. No markets, taxis, buses, nothing.

We just sat aroung our radio in the sun, rain, and snow -- then one morning there was TV in the late 1940s. Took a while to figure it out. There was no one to hire to explain it.

Ya know, things weren't all that bad back then.

37 posted on 04/02/2005 7:04:33 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: xsrdx
BUT MOST AMERICANS ARE NOT.

The vast majority of American understand that mass immigration, both legal and illegal, is not in their best interests. Flooding the market with subsidized cheap labor erodes wages and raises taxes for the middle class. Here are a bunch of polls that show how American feel about immigration.

NumbersUSA Public Opinion

If you are going to make assertions about the "vast majority of the American People" I would like to see you cite some evidence.

39 posted on 04/02/2005 7:41:10 AM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: xsrdx; Travis McGee; Marine Inspector
We're not in this fix because Mexicans are just determined to come to the US, we're in this fix because WE KEEP PAYING THEM TO DO IT.

I believe you have a good point. There are several fingers to point at the cause of the problem. You listed another, and imho, valid one.

I see it occasionally at one place I work. Those who come in for pre-employment screening, with obvious (to an amateur eye) fake or forged documentation, roll in from time to time.

Is there any way I could anonymously *report* something, if I suspect anything? Is such an idea realistic, with the magnitude of the problem?

40 posted on 04/02/2005 7:50:33 AM PST by kstewskis ("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles"....Fr. A Saenz.)
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