[hleewilder]

Thanks for the history lesson, but do you have something, I dunno, what's the word I'm looking for...oh, yeah, how about something RECENT that you can quote for us?

I mean, come on. Yes, you appear to have all the symptoms of a Theocratical Conservative. Congratulations, here's your sign.

[little jeremiah]

I guess you think Old Dead White Men (even the ones who actually wrote the Constitution and signed the Declaration of Indpendence) are irrelevant?

Is this recent enough for you? (I don't know the date of their famed history books, but it should be mid 20th century.)

Will and Ariel Durant
"Does history warrant the conclusion that religion is necessary to morality -- that a natural ethic is too weak to withstand the savagery that lurks under civilization and emerges in our dreams, crimes, and wars? ... There is no significant example in history, before our time, of a society successfully maintaining moral life without the aid of religion."

[little jeremiah]

BTW, how do you estimate all the men who wrote as well as signed our founding docuemnts informed themselves about right and wrong?