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To: Jorge
SIX seperate courts have heard this case.

They have heard appeals and such stemming from the case. They have ruled on the process Greer used in the case. That doesn't mean that six courts have "heard the case".

Each one has determined "clear and convincing" evidence exis

I am sure that what happened is that they determined that Greer was within his discretion to determine that "clear and convincing" evidence exists.

That doesn't mean that they all, themselves, re-examined the evidence from scratch and found it just as "clear and convincing" as Greer did.

If there are any who did, then they are morons, just like Greer.

The idea that being in a vegetative state of existence involves NO SUFFERING on ANY LEVEL, that a person is just fine with it..is absolutely absurd.

Not if you actually know the definition of "Persistent/Permanent Vegetative State", which, apparently, you don't. Which makes it extremely odd that you spout off about the subject.

A person in "PVS" by definition cannot be suffering. If a person is "suffering", that is proof that they are not "PVS". It is one or the other. If you are looking at a "PVS" patient and imagining that they must be suffering, you should know that this is a sort of superstition on your part. If she were capable of suffering, she would not have been "PVS". (Or do you subscribe to the "suffering of the soul" metaphysical theories of Luis?)

Perhaps, you should learn about this disability-state that you have decided makes people killable? Just a suggestion.

And you degrade yourself with shameful statements like the "pro-killing faction".

It is merely a factual statement. The faction, that you represent, was in favor of killing Terri Schiavo. What the hell should I call it?

People have to make painful decisions all the time when it comes letting a loved one go

Nobody "had to" make this decision to kill Terri Schiavo. Michael could have walked away and let her family take care of her. There was nothing that prevented him from doing it apart from his own sick, cruel ghoulishness.

it's hard enough without your brand of misguided fanatical name-calling and accusations.

It SHOULD BE hard. It should not be easy as pie to kill a family member because you want them to be dead.

Spouses make life and death decisions when it comes to medical treatment for their partners ALL THE TIME.

Of course they do but that is not what we are discussing. We are discussing a decision to starve someone to death intentionally.

It is the law.

Again, if the law really did allow for what happened to Terri Schiavo and no judges made any mistakes, then the law is an ass. Another option is that a judge or judges made mistakes in interpreting the law.

Whatever the case, the judicial execution of Terri Schiavo was a damn travesty and there's no two ways about it.

682 posted on 04/02/2005 11:58:26 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank fan
Perhaps, you should learn about this disability-state that you have decided makes people killable? Just a suggestion.

Absurd.

Perhaps you should go back and read what I actually said instead of assigning me those positions you feel most comfortable attacking.

Just a suggestion.

701 posted on 04/04/2005 7:21:22 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Dr. Frank fan
"And you degrade yourself with shameful statements like the "pro-killing faction"."

It is merely a factual statement. The faction, that you represent, was in favor of killing Terri Schiavo. What the hell should I call it?

I NEVER said I was "in favor of killing Terri Schiavo".

IN FACT I said that if it was up to me I could NOT have made the decision to remove her feeding tube.
I would have prefered to transfer custody to the parents.

HOWEVER I don't know how I would have felt after seeing a loved one trapped in this state for 15 years and I am not ready to condemn the husband.
And for all I know he WAS carrying out Terri's final wishes.

You need to actually read posts and comprehend what people's positions ARE before making accusations.

702 posted on 04/04/2005 7:29:11 PM PDT by Jorge
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