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Zogby Poll: Americans Not in Favor of Starving Terri Schiavo (poll with fair questions)
LifeNews ^ | April 1, 2005 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/01/2005 8:05:46 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: MHGinTN

The finding was reviewed, but under the law, near impossible to reverse. That's the rub.


481 posted on 04/01/2005 11:28:05 PM PST by Torie
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To: MHGinTN

Once the Schindlers said they would chop off all her limbs and rip out her heart to keep her body breathing even if they knew she would not wish for that, what would you have done if you were Michael.


482 posted on 04/01/2005 11:28:11 PM PST by KDD (just the facts please)
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To: flowergirl

It took Bobby Sands 66 days to die that way.


483 posted on 04/01/2005 11:29:15 PM PST by KDD (just the facts please)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Luis, since when have you become the definer of what is allowed or disallowed for someone to be pro-life? [I recall our debate regarding the death penalty and my anti-abortion beliefs.] And I thought you were a Catholic ... and you know what The Holy Father says about food and water for disabled people. I am kind of surprised to hear you so worshipful of Ken Starr though ... and I happened to have listened to him when he said he had not dug into this case and used qualifiers like 'it appears' and 'it is likely that' when asked to pronounce validity upon the court process in Florida.


484 posted on 04/01/2005 11:29:35 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: KDD

I would like to see that statement in a cout transcript and hear what kind of question was asked..


485 posted on 04/01/2005 11:29:42 PM PST by flowergirl (Trust in the Lord with all your heart)
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To: MHGinTN

BS


486 posted on 04/01/2005 11:30:20 PM PST by KDD (just the facts please)
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To: hocndoc

It is comforting for all of us though to know how well we are all doing with this experimental technique of nutrition and hydration by mouth. Most people I know have survived this experimentation since birth. /sarcasm


487 posted on 04/01/2005 11:30:54 PM PST by northernlightsII
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To: KDD

who is Bobby sands?


488 posted on 04/01/2005 11:31:25 PM PST by flowergirl (Trust in the Lord with all your heart)
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To: Dave S

This is very important to you, isn't it?

Look at the definition of legal death, brain death, cardiac death, etc. It varies by state.

In Texas, brain death can be used for those on life support - a ventilator and/or a pacemaker. In that case, there is no function in the brain stem. The gold standard, in disputed cases, is a blood flow study of the brain stem, which should show no blood flow at all. I wouldn't be surprised if a PET scan becomes the standard in the future. In obvious cases, as in severe trauma to the head or after a stroke and when there is no drug being used that could depress the Central Nervous System, EEG's that show no brain wave activity in the brain stem could be acceptable.

In cases where a person is found pulseless and without respiration by paramedics, they are usually required to find other signs, such as a documented time since collapse, pooling of blood, severe chest trauma, etc., although that may vary by local criteria.


489 posted on 04/01/2005 11:31:35 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Jorge
The last doctor to examine Terri was a doctor from the Florida Department of Children and Families four or five days after her last STARVATION and DEHYDRATION, the one that killed her, was begun. He diagnosed her as "semiconscious." She was not a vegetable, or comatose or in pvs.

Of five doctors who examined Terri for the courts, three said she was pvs and two said she wasn't. With the inclusion of the DCF doctor, that makes it a tie, 3 to 3.

50 doctors sent statements to the courts which said Terri could be rehabilitated.

Nurses who cared for Terri, Terri's family, friends and priests all said Terri was responsive.

490 posted on 04/01/2005 11:32:00 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: Destro

Still can't answer the question?


491 posted on 04/01/2005 11:32:24 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Ah, so you also don't believe abortion is murder.


492 posted on 04/01/2005 11:32:56 PM PST by SendShaqtoIraq (Reggie, we will always love you.)
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To: flowergirl

The links are here.
Should be easy for you to find.


493 posted on 04/01/2005 11:33:12 PM PST by KDD (just the facts please)
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To: flowergirl

Google is your friend.


494 posted on 04/01/2005 11:34:15 PM PST by KDD (just the facts please)
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To: Jorge

That was not mean spirited. I was listing events that could cause any of us to find ourselves dependent on others for our care.

Your reaction on the other hand, underlines your inability to identify with others in an empathetic way. Extrapolate. This is not all about you.

Law and government guns affect more than one person at a time.


495 posted on 04/01/2005 11:34:42 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: MHGinTN

The Holy Father no more runs Florida Courts than the Florida Judiciary runs the Vatican.


496 posted on 04/01/2005 11:36:17 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Off topic, but who cares? I read today this ridiculous article in the local bar journal about the Celtic legal society, which appropriately enough, gets blasted once a week in some bar. They listed seven Celtic "nations." Can you name them? Hint they ain't nations, except for one, just regions/places.
497 posted on 04/01/2005 11:37:26 PM PST by Torie
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To: SendShaqtoIraq

And it became "not murder" once the Federal government became involved on something traditionally (and Constitutionally) left to the States.

But why would we actually learn from that?


498 posted on 04/01/2005 11:38:07 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: KDD
My point was that Terri's death was w/out mercy. What was the fear of her Mom putting water or ice to her dry mouth & cracked lips? she might choke to death??? Isn't that what the goal was ...to kill Terri?I fear the table is being set for quicker, less painful means of "mercy killing"
Wouldn't surprise me if felos et al were glad she took so long to die.
499 posted on 04/01/2005 11:38:20 PM PST by flowergirl (Trust in the Lord with all your heart)
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To: TAdams8591

This was the whole problem with the case. It's like Greer heard evidence 3 to 2 that the world was flat. He threw out testimony that he thought was biased or wrong and then ruled that the world was flat.

Thereafter, no matter how much evidence was presented that the world was round, it just didn't matter, as Greer had already declared it to be legal fact that the world was flat.


500 posted on 04/01/2005 11:38:33 PM PST by AnnOutragedCitizen
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