Posted on 04/01/2005 4:15:53 PM PST by Spiff
I just got back from Tombstone - this is a firsthand report of the Minuteman Project
I arrived around 9am(which was on the schedule as registration). I wasn't sure where exactly to go because the information I had just said downtown Tombstone. Once there it was obvious where to go. The news trucks with their satellite dishes were everywhere. Media types with video and still cameras swarmed the streets. Reporters with their surgically attached notepads crowded the sidewalks.
MMP volunteers were in line outside the building. At one time there was probably one media person for every one volunteer. Soon the numbers of volunteers swelled and it was a target rich environment for the media.
It looked like a good bunch of people. I knew some of them but most were from out of town. We waited forever with no news about what the delay was. Finally, they opened the doors and let in about 5 at a time for registration.
I know the organizers of the event and I offered to help them any way I can if they needed. While I was waiting in line one of the grabbed me and said "Help." They needed help at the registration table in order to process all of the volunteers faster than they were already doing. I was ushered in (I didn't have a registration yet or ID badge, but there I was registering everyone else).
Once I was there we got things really moving. There was some sort of computer glitch that had wiped out some people's registration and they didn't have their badge and paperwork in the file. We had to direct them 3 blocks over to the Tombstone Tumbleweed office to wait in line there for a full registration.
I was joined the room by Linda Muller and Bay Buchanan of Tom Tancredo's Team America PAC. Bay was to speak later and Linda had set up a booth for people to join the organization, buy T-shirts and bumper stickers, and just plain receive information about the group.
Once signing everyone in I had about an hour before the speakers would start and we would receive our orientation. I went down to the Tumbleweed office and registered and waited for my ID card. While there I heard something going on back across town (its a small town and you can hear stuff going on a couple blocks away). I left to investigate.
I went back to the building being used to assemble the volunteers and saw nothing at first. Then I saw a bunch of college-aged kids with ACLU Legal Observer printed in red - in English and Spanish - on their T-shirts. I approached one of them and said that I wanted to report vigilantism. I said that the MMP was only coming to the border to observe and to report any illegal activity to the proper authorities. I then told them that the ACLU was coming to observe the observers and report any illegal activity. And, since the ACLU considers the MMP to be vigilantes then the ACLU legal observers are vigilantes too because they're doing the same exact thing. The guy wanted to argue with me and then decided not to because he wanted to join the group's leader who was being interviewed by the press.
Just then I heard a bunch of drums thumping, horns blowing, whistles blowing, and pots and pans being banged. I look up the street to see 30-40 protestors coming our way. I ran up the street to check them out and many were Mexican - some were in indian dress for some reason. There were also a bunch of skanky looking college-aged kids with various offensive slogans on signs and T-shirts. One was wearing an Earth First shirt. I saw several anarchy symbols and such. I joined the marchers as they headed to the building and chanted loudly "Viva La Migra!!" They didn't like that and I was frequently rewarded with a metal pot being placed next to my ear and banged loudly. Ouch!
The protestors set up directly in front of the hall. I tried to engage other MMP types in the "Viva La Migra!" chant, but apparently most don't know what it means and were confused.
Those in indian dress did some funky indian dances and such. Most protestors had ear plugs in their ears so that they would not be deafened by their racket.
It was about then that they started ushering the first group of people in to hear the speakers. I didn't have an ID yet - one of the organizers let me in to the foyer but I could not get into the auditorium without a badge. Luckily, since I'd been registering people I had noticed that the organizer who had let me in had a badge on and I had seen an additional badge in the stack. So, he had a duplicate badge. I went over and snagged the additional badge, he knew I was doing it and didn't mind. That got me past the bouncers at the auditorium doors.
The room was full and this was just the first group of volunteers to hear the speeches. They had to let us in in groups because the hall would not seat all of us.
The speakers included Jim Gilchrist, Bay Buchanan, Rep. Tom Tancredo, Chris Simcox, Frosty Wooldridge, and AZ Senator Russell Pearce. The speeches were electrifying, bringing the crowd to its feet many times. Also in attendance were some Republican members of the AZ State Legislature (next to whom I sat). There was Sen. Thayer Verschoor, Sen. Russell Pearce, Sen. Karen Johnson and Sen. Jack Harper. Also there was Rep. Andy Biggs, Rep. Trish Gore, and Rep. Chuck Gray. Former Rep. Randy Graf was also there. And, let me tell you having sat next to them, they were some of the most enthusiastic members of the crowd. A great bunch.
Most of the political speakers focused on our unsecured borders and the government's responsibility to protect it under Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution. President Bush's name was mud because of his support for amnesty and the name-calling he did last week (he called the MMP a bunch of "vigilantes" when he was playing grab ass with El Presidente Vincente Fox. The orientation consisted of Chris Simcox explaining that the whole world is watching and that no one is to do anything to bring discredit to the MMP. And that everyone should be law-abiding, respectful, professional, and keep an eye on the other volunteers to make sure that they're doing the same.
The rousing speeches ended and I found myself outside amid the din of the crazy protestors. I tried to carry on a conversation with someone right in front of the building rented for the MMP but it was impossible because of the noise. I grabbed one of the ACLU Legal Observers to file a complaint against the protestors and she laughed me off. I searched out another one and actually got him to write up a formal complaint. I explained that the MMP's freedom of speech and right to peaceable assembly were being infringed by the disrupting protestors. He wrote it all down and said he would see what they could do with my complaint. I urged several others to do the same thing - to file a complaint - and several did.
I was interviewed by several news reporters on camera and off. I was taped chanting "Viva La Migra!" to the protestors (which was akin to stirring a hornet's nest every time I did it).
At one time a German tourist came up and asked me if I was a "gunman". I had no idea what he was talking about. He finally explained that we were taking our guns to the border to shoot illegals. I told him that he was wrong. He then got in my face about a bunch of euro crap. He hated America (nice, then why was he paying to visit it?) and everything it stood for and did in the world. He brought up Iraq several times. I acted aghast that he was so upset that we liberated 26 million Iraqis. He whined about how we only care about ourselves. I explained that since he lived in Germany he should remember that if it was not for America he would still be living under Hitler's thumb today and that he should be respectful and grateful that we had the audacity to liberate Europe - to include Germany - from Hitler. I further explained that the entire world would be living under Nazi or Japanese dictators if it was not for America and that he better start showing us some respect. He said his grandfather had been a Nazi, etc. I wasn't getting anywhere with him so I left to check on my registration. There were still dozens of people milling around the Tumbleweed waiting for their registration to be complete, etc.
The press was still everywhere and I was interviewed and such everywhere I went. I met up with a reporter from the San Jose Mercury News and she asked me to arrange for her to see some of the trashed and devastated desert areas. She also wants to meet up with a rancher that has had problems with illegals and interview him and film the damage. I'm working on that for Sunday afternoon.
The protestors finally went home and I decided to call it a day. My daughter has a violin concert tonight and I hadn't even eaten lunch. Plus, I was pretty badly sunburned (ouch!).
I will be at the Naco rally tomorrow with my bullhorn, signs, and such. It should be great fun. If anyone plans to attend, please let me know.
H class visas are severely limited now. The quota gets filled up literally in a day by highly educated immigrants who have strong work ethics.
Americas greatest strength is that the country has always provided a fertile place for smart, type A, go-getters. America to its benefit has inadvertantly poached the best and brightest of the world.
Closing up immigration would be a disaster. Thankfully the powers that be know that.
My point is that proper management of existing visa programs and laws would have averted any crisis necessitating "reform". I hate to see the government grow and make more laws based on failure to properly manage and enforce existing law.
Personally, I think you can cuss better in Spanish than almost any other language except maybe Russian.
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Immigrants have always been welcomed to our country, providing they do us the simple favor of following the rules we've laid down. It's common courtesy after all.
I'm sorry it seems to take so long, but there are literally hundreds of thousands of people from every corner of the world waiting patiently to be granted visa, asylum, and citizenship. The fact that the process takes some time doesn't give anyone the right to just walk across the border in violation of our laws just because they feel like our entry requirements are inconvenient.
You want to move to America? That's perfectly OK with me. God bless you and I hope the process goes smoothly for ya. But you damned well should be required stand in line with the literally thousands of other people who are doing things the lawful way. Anyone with a shred of self-respect would want to do things that way I think.
Maybe that's just me...
I sure hope not, though.
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BUMP.
Surely you aren't suggesting that there are actually AMERICANS that would really WANT to work as A&P mechanics; or as skilled construction workers, or as dock & shipyard workers, are you?
Next you'll be trying to say lazy Americans would stoop to running a temp-worker agency!
ping!
Don't trust anyone from the Jerkery Mews. It is a far left illegal immigration cheerleading operation. Mass third world immigration is their favorite topic and they can't promote it enough.
I have no idea what the reporter wants, but you can bet that when it finally sees the light of day in the Smirk it will be spun as "see what the evil gringos have forced the poor downtrodden of Mexico to do".
While there's nothing wrong with LEGAL immigration (except that the system is a mess and needs to be refirmed and the laws enforced and updated), there is absolutely something wrong with ILLEGAL immingration and those that come here illegally. I say "wrong" because it is my belief that if a person starts out by breaking our laws and get's away with it - what incentive does that person have to EVER abide by the laws of this country?
I am a first-generation American. My parents came here in the 1950's. Their families came with practically nothing, followed the rules and worked hard. They followed the immigration laws that were in place at the time. I expect nothing less from every other person who wishes to live and work in this country. No ifs, ands or buts!
I wish the best the the MMP and I thank those involved. Stay safe!
Oh please. How old are you? Immigration was near nothing for 40 years from 1924 to 1965. The U.S. went from the Roaring Twenties through the Depression through World War II to Korea and the Eisenhower '50s and into Vietnam as the undisputed leader of the planet, all on the backs of the original Americans and the population that came in the Great Wave.
The 1965 Immigration Amendments were sold to us as a "little thing" that wouldn't change much at all. Forty million legal immigrants and 20 million illegal immigrants later the country looks and acts utterly different from what it was then. When did we vote to become Mexico?
We never needed the people who came, they got to walk into Heaven's Door without ever bearing a little of the burden of bringing it into being, and the country is now balkanized in ways no one could have imagined in 1970.
Immigration? It should have ended in 1924 and stayed that way.
Problem is that I've heard the same justification for robberies, muggings, and kids snitching candy bars.
The argument fails to address concepts like "wrong", "Illegal", and "likely to get you shot/whipped/busted/etc.
Also. "currently living in Canada" sort of dilutes your verisimilitude.
Are you kidding? I barely speak enough Russian any more to get slapped or punched out.
Thank you, Spiff.
note the body guard on the far right
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No argument with that statement-- we agree that the Great Wave 100 years ago was actually a good thing.
I'd be grateful if you had a good reference on the "forty million legal immigrants and 20 million illegal immigrants" numbers. I've been really looking, and the best I could find was census bureau data at 33 foreign born and 9 million illegals. True, Census Bureau numbers are hard to read with a straight face, but links like this are even worse.
Get some sun block, Spiff ~ good report!
La Migra is slang for the Immigration & Naturalization service ie the INS hence Viva La Migra is hooray for the INS
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