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Firsthand Report of Today's Minuteman Project Activities
Spiff | 1 April 2005 | Spiff

Posted on 04/01/2005 4:15:53 PM PST by Spiff

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To: spodefly

H class visas are severely limited now. The quota gets filled up literally in a day by highly educated immigrants who have strong work ethics.
Americas greatest strength is that the country has always provided a fertile place for smart, type A, go-getters. America to its benefit has inadvertantly poached the best and brightest of the world.
Closing up immigration would be a disaster. Thankfully the powers that be know that.


101 posted on 04/01/2005 9:54:34 PM PST by rasblue
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To: rasblue

My point is that proper management of existing visa programs and laws would have averted any crisis necessitating "reform". I hate to see the government grow and make more laws based on failure to properly manage and enforce existing law.


102 posted on 04/01/2005 9:56:38 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Travis McGee
I've got a few if you run short.

Personally, I think you can cuss better in Spanish than almost any other language except maybe Russian.

L

103 posted on 04/01/2005 9:58:15 PM PST by Lurker (Remember the Beirut Bombing; 243 dead Marines. The House of Assad and Hezbollah did it..)
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To: rasblue
The problem is that there are millions of them breaking our laws every day. We don't like our laws being flouted with impunity. It kind of pisses us off actually.

Immigrants have always been welcomed to our country, providing they do us the simple favor of following the rules we've laid down. It's common courtesy after all.

I'm sorry it seems to take so long, but there are literally hundreds of thousands of people from every corner of the world waiting patiently to be granted visa, asylum, and citizenship. The fact that the process takes some time doesn't give anyone the right to just walk across the border in violation of our laws just because they feel like our entry requirements are inconvenient.

You want to move to America? That's perfectly OK with me. God bless you and I hope the process goes smoothly for ya. But you damned well should be required stand in line with the literally thousands of other people who are doing things the lawful way. Anyone with a shred of self-respect would want to do things that way I think.

Maybe that's just me...

I sure hope not, though.

L

104 posted on 04/01/2005 10:09:21 PM PST by Lurker (Remember the Beirut Bombing; 243 dead Marines. The House of Assad and Hezbollah did it..)
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To: Spiff

BUMP.


105 posted on 04/01/2005 10:11:00 PM PST by mjtobias (Our love for Terri was immense; her parents' love was infinite; God's love is everlasting.)
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To: johnb838
"doing jobs Americans won't do"

Surely you aren't suggesting that there are actually AMERICANS that would really WANT to work as A&P mechanics; or as skilled construction workers, or as dock & shipyard workers, are you?

Next you'll be trying to say lazy Americans would stoop to running a temp-worker agency!

106 posted on 04/01/2005 10:19:19 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Only those without honor eat dead food, rather than making every meal a fight!)
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To: Spiff
A song for the Minutemen --- BORDERLINE
107 posted on 04/01/2005 10:36:52 PM PST by doug from upland (MOCKING DEMOCRATS 24/7 --- www.rightwingparodies.com)
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To: Idisarthur

ping!


108 posted on 04/01/2005 10:52:39 PM PST by Serenissima Venezia (Bush talks about jobs Americans won't do - one we will do is (undocumented) U.S. Border Patrol Agent)
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To: Spiff
I met up with a reporter from the San Jose Mercury News and she asked me to arrange for her to see some of the trashed and devastated desert areas. She also wants to meet up with a rancher that has had problems with illegals and interview him and film the damage. I'm working on that for Sunday afternoon

Don't trust anyone from the Jerkery Mews. It is a far left illegal immigration cheerleading operation. Mass third world immigration is their favorite topic and they can't promote it enough.

I have no idea what the reporter wants, but you can bet that when it finally sees the light of day in the Smirk it will be spun as "see what the evil gringos have forced the poor downtrodden of Mexico to do".

109 posted on 04/01/2005 10:58:59 PM PST by Regulator
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To: rasblue
There's nothing wrong with immigrants or immigration. We need it and we have it. Immigration is not what the Minute Man Project is about. It is about ILLEGAL immigration.

While there's nothing wrong with LEGAL immigration (except that the system is a mess and needs to be refirmed and the laws enforced and updated), there is absolutely something wrong with ILLEGAL immingration and those that come here illegally. I say "wrong" because it is my belief that if a person starts out by breaking our laws and get's away with it - what incentive does that person have to EVER abide by the laws of this country?

I am a first-generation American. My parents came here in the 1950's. Their families came with practically nothing, followed the rules and worked hard. They followed the immigration laws that were in place at the time. I expect nothing less from every other person who wishes to live and work in this country. No ifs, ands or buts!

I wish the best the the MMP and I thank those involved. Stay safe!

110 posted on 04/01/2005 11:06:29 PM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: rasblue
Closing up immigration would be a disaster. Thankfully the powers that be know that

Oh please. How old are you? Immigration was near nothing for 40 years from 1924 to 1965. The U.S. went from the Roaring Twenties through the Depression through World War II to Korea and the Eisenhower '50s and into Vietnam as the undisputed leader of the planet, all on the backs of the original Americans and the population that came in the Great Wave.

The 1965 Immigration Amendments were sold to us as a "little thing" that wouldn't change much at all. Forty million legal immigrants and 20 million illegal immigrants later the country looks and acts utterly different from what it was then. When did we vote to become Mexico?

We never needed the people who came, they got to walk into Heaven's Door without ever bearing a little of the burden of bringing it into being, and the country is now balkanized in ways no one could have imagined in 1970.

Immigration? It should have ended in 1924 and stayed that way.

111 posted on 04/01/2005 11:09:47 PM PST by Regulator
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To: rasblue
"Problem is that legal immigration takes so long and is so expensive and hard that folks choose the illegal route when the legal route becomes hard to do."

Problem is that I've heard the same justification for robberies, muggings, and kids snitching candy bars.
The argument fails to address concepts like "wrong", "Illegal", and "likely to get you shot/whipped/busted/etc.
Also. "currently living in Canada" sort of dilutes your verisimilitude.

112 posted on 04/02/2005 12:28:50 AM PST by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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To: Lurker

Are you kidding? I barely speak enough Russian any more to get slapped or punched out.


113 posted on 04/02/2005 12:47:46 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Spiff

Thank you, Spiff.


114 posted on 04/02/2005 12:50:13 AM PST by k2blader (The state sanctioned murder of Terri Shiavo happened on the Republicans' watch.)
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To: FreedomCalls

note the body guard on the far right


115 posted on 04/02/2005 2:07:12 AM PST by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: Spiff
Good first person report. Bless all of you American Patroits. Wish I could be there myself in person but am with all of you in spirit at least. Please keep us informed and may God keep all of you safe and secure.
116 posted on 04/02/2005 5:57:16 AM PST by Ron H. (''Compassionate Conservatism'' - just a catchy sounding 'hollow' euphemism for social liberalism.)
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To: Regulator
Immigration was near nothing for 40 years from 1924 to 1965. The U.S. went...   ... as the undisputed leader of the planet, all on the backs of the original Americans and the population that came in the Great Wave..

No argument with that statement-- we agree that the Great Wave 100 years ago was actually a good thing. 

I'd be grateful if you had a good reference on the "forty million legal immigrants and 20 million illegal immigrants" numbers.  I've been really looking, and the best I could find was census bureau data at 33 foreign born and 9 million illegals.   True, Census Bureau numbers are hard to read with a straight face, but links like this are even worse.

117 posted on 04/02/2005 6:47:02 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: Spiff

Get some sun block, Spiff ~ good report!


118 posted on 04/02/2005 7:00:33 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: rasblue
I'm an immigrant. Most graduating engineers in the US are immigrants now. Why? Well I hate to call anyone out...... Maybe its those third world values. Maybe its that immigrants think the "Hard Christian Right" are a bunch of nutjobs, and are more concerned about the working, living, staying out of other peoples business. Is that the problem?

Ras - If I want the USA to be more like Pakistan, Nigeria or Mexico then I'd be in favor of extremely high immigration, legal/illegal, from those places. I don't want that however, so I believe we shouldn't have so much of that kind of influx.

As to "most" immigrants being hard working etc. "Most" isn't good enough. The crime, prison, and street-gang demographics of this country spell out clearly that some groups are overrepresented, year after year, in those stats.

But most of all, our current immigration trends are expanding the reach and depth of the third world norm known as Islam in this country. Why do we want to be the next Holland.
119 posted on 04/02/2005 7:01:10 AM PST by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: Zhangliqun

La Migra is slang for the Immigration & Naturalization service ie the INS hence Viva La Migra is hooray for the INS


120 posted on 04/02/2005 7:18:01 AM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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