Judge rules with DCF over Schiavo records

http://www.wluctv6.com/global/story.asp?s=3155544&ClientType=Printable ^ | 4/1/05

[Maria S]

CLEARWATER, Fla. A Florida judge is keeping some records of investigations into Terri Schiavo's treatment out of the hands of the media.

The St. Petersburg Times wanted access to summaries from the state Department of Children and Families. The agency launched dozens of investigations into complaints that the brain-damaged woman was mistreated.

Some were based on bone scans showing Schiavo suffered fractures. Others were based on statements she made to family and friends that she was unhappy in her marriage.

Schiavo's husband has denied harming her.

Circuit Judge George Greer has denied the request -- saying the records belong to D-C-F. He says Schiavo's husband can have access to them, but they can't be distributed publicly.

The agency didn't want the records released -- saying it would hamper an ongoing investigation.

A similar motion filed by the parent company of The Tampa Tribune is scheduled for a hearing Monday.

[afraidfortherepublic]

What next?

[Diogenesis]

Florida Pinellas County Judgenfuhrer Greer: "Records? Screw you all.
The US Constitution - We have ignored it.
18 USC Section 1505 - We have ignored it.
Title 2 of the US code - We have ignored it.
Florida Statute 765.309 which prevents mercy killing and assisted suicide - We have ignored it.
Florida Statute 744.3215 which requires that incapacitated people cannot be deprived of food and water - We have ignored it.
Florida Statute 765.404, which says that clear and convincing evidence of the ward's intent for medical treatment must be established - We have ignored it..
The body is ashes. The evidence soon will be, too."

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" 9. Between September 1939 and April 1945 the defendants Karl Brandt, Blome, Brack, and Hoven unlawfully, willfully, and knowingly committed war crimes, as defined by Article II of Control Council Law No. 10, in that they were principals in, accessories to, ordered, abetted, took a consenting part in, and were connected with plans and enterprises involving the execution of the so-called "euthanasia" program of the German Reich in the course of which the defendants herein murdered hundreds of thousands of human beings, including nationals of German-occupied countries. This program involved the systematic and secret execution of the aged, insane, incurably ill, of deformed children, and other persons, by gas, lethal injections, and diverse other means in nursing homes, hospitals, and asylums. Such persons were regarded as "useless eaters" and a burden to the German war machine. The relatives of these victims were informed that they died from natural causes, such as heart failure. German doctors involved in the "euthanasia" program were also sent to Eastern occupied countries to assist in the mass extermination of Jews."

[ Count 2, section 9, of the indictment in "the Doctor's Trial" at the Nuremberg war crimes trial;
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum ]

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HEALTHFUL DRINKS WITH WARM MEALS EATEN SINCE THE ORDER-TO-MURDER-AN-INVALID BY JUDGE GREER
BEFORE HIS GREER'S and THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM'S Latest VICTIM WAS MURDERED
Scumbag Torturer and Murderer-At-Will, The Imperial Pinellas County Judgenfuhrer Greer ..... 60
............................................................................................ Terri Shiavo 0
............................................................................................ Lee Malvo 55
...................................................................................... Scott Peterson 54

[Cicero]

The agency didn't want the records released -- saying it would hamper an ongoing investigation.

How long will this investigation go on? Another fifteen years? I'm not inclined to cut them much slack at this point.

[TXBubba]

Actually, the investigation could be a good thing couldn't it? Maybe they are going to pursue MS for abuse or neglect?

[Diogenesis]

You are optimistic. Let's put it this way.

Suppose we are gambling (and I do not). We are betting
on a flipped coin, but heads comes up 50 times.

Would you now bet it all on the next flip to be tails?

Not me. I bet it was a two-headed coin.

In this case, there is absolute, systematic, fraud, coverup,
conspiracy, and murder.

[My Favorite Headache]

[St.VincentPaul]

Lord, if they don't sue him, I think I'll go insane. BUT, THIS TIME, the SCHINDLERS have to get first rate lawyer (no offense to any other prior attorneys)- but its no secret, that Courts are swayed by the reputation of the lawyer standing before the bench.

[Trust but Verify]

Well, I guess this means the DCF is in on The Conspiracy, too.

[TXBubba]

Yes, but the DCF was going with Jeb to get her when, well, they didn't. But that does make me optimistic that they are investigating a lot of what happened to Terri. I am hoping they are far enough removed from Pinellas County to not be a part of the problem.

[Ed_in_NJ]

IANAL, but I believe that if the investigation takes longer than the Statute of Limitations, he gets a free pass.

[TXBubba]

What does IANAL stand for? and how long are the statute of limitations. Seems like her murder just happened?

[bondserv]

Laughed at by time
Tricked by circumstances

[St.VincentPaul]

Hey, if MS is sick, you must convict!

[Montfort]

"Lord, if they don't sue him, I think I'll go insane. BUT, THIS TIME, the SCHINDLERS have to get first rate lawyer (no offense to any other prior attorneys)- but its no secret, that Courts are swayed by the reputation of the lawyer standing before the bench."

Reputation? Sometimes the most important part of "reputation" is your reputation for having given the Judge in question a campaign contribution or having served as a campaign chairman.

Of course, this only applies where judges are elected by the public. In Virginia, where the legislature chooses judges, you can be sure that politics and personal connections have no connection to judges.

[Peach]

An amazing number of freepers told me that it was suspicious that DCF couldn't have control of Terri's records. I asked for proof of that and no one could provide that proof.

Because it was not true.

DCF does have control of Terri's records but the judge ruled the media cannot have her records. Okay. I'll buy that.

Someone will leak. And in the interim, I personally am glad the media isn't finding it easy to get hold of an individual's private medical records.

[peter the great]

I am not a lawyer. However, I do watch the news a lot. If you remember the Amy Fischer/Joey Buttafuco I do remember Mary Jo Buttafucco walking around with a bullet in her head and if she was to die as a result of the bullet Amy Fischer would have been brought up on murder charges. The problem here is all the time that has elapsed and the Statute of Limitations. I am sure somebody is looking at this and figuring out ;what ,if anything, to do.

[TXBubba]

I personally am glad the media isn't finding it easy to get hold of an individual's private medical records.

Somehow at this point I doubt Terri would find that a worry.

[Peach]

If the media is going to be given access to Terri's records, you'll be next.

Isn't that the mantra?

Regardless, there is no reason for the media to have access to Terri's records.