U.S. Army Defies Bush

Human Events Online ^ | April 1, 2005 | Elaine Donnelly

[R. Scott]

Besides, several days a month they are totally worthless...

No, several days a month they are extremely deadly.

[mark502inf]

The non-firing data, as I recall, came from the SLA Marshall "Men Against Fire" study. Crew-served weapon gunners, leaders, and soldiers directly supervised by leaders most consistently fired. The redesign of infantry squads to include more NCOs and "fire teams" was partially based on the Marshall study. Increasing the leader to led ratio was supposed to help ensure more soldiers actually engaged the enemy with their weapons.

[R. Scott]

…team leader Sergeant with her M4 and M203 grenade launcher, rush the nearest ditch about 20 meters away to start clearing the natural trenchline.

[R. Scott]

In the end, all computers be damned, it's the infantry man/ tanker who gets the job done.

Yes, and it’s the truck driver, boat operator and helicopter pilot who makes sure he has the “beans and bullets” he needs – often fighting their way to his position. It is the field MP and the transportation/supply weenie that provides convoy security. The combat arms types would be pretty worthless all by themselves.

[jb6]

transportation/supply weenie that provides convoy security. The combat arms types would be pretty worthless all by themselves.

Yes we saw how well the Ash and Trash defend themselves in fire fights. Half the weapons jammed from lack of maintenace in the ambush during the main offensive.

As for bullets and beans, the point of it all is, every single branch of the army/airforce/navy is there for a single purpose: support the Army & Marine infantry and tankers who are the ones who at the end of the day either win the battle or loose the war.

Because until a grunt or tanker is standing on the ground and hoisting the flag, you really haven't won jack crap.

[jb6]

Yup, extremely deadly, like my wife the past two days: heavily cramped, bloated, tired and a bit of virtigo. Not to mention requiring shower facilities to keep infection rates down.

[jb6]

They are not pro-life, they are pro-replacement. Any society where a mother tells her son to go do something with his life: by blowing up some of those damned zionist/american/christian/indian/fill in the blank, pigs, is no pro-life society. They are against abortion because that would 1. cut down on the replacement rate and jihads eat up meat resources very quickly and 2. would give the women to much idol time to think or read or get upity ideas.

[pajama pundit]

Is this response in anyway related to the sympotms in post #66 above?

[ChadGore]

Well said !

[Stopislamnow]

Women can't even carry thier own toolboxes much less an injured soldier. And that is not silliness. Ever been in combat pal?

[Mulch]

thanks. I need a good laugh.

[verity]

"I have one daughter that no man wants to threaten..."

That's the one we'll accept.

[verity]

Hey, former company grade officer, if you can holster your reproductive appendage for a moment, you need to understand that the Army does not have a sufficient number of males to fill its CSS needs.

Perhaps that's a failing on your part for not sufficiently reproducing yourself.

What's your plan for a functioning Army without females?

[verity]

"A bit hard to follow"

That's a personal problem.

[Pukin Dog]

I wouldn't call Donnelly either a cow or a hero.

Then don't, but then, I doubt you know the woman. I do. So does every pilot who ever flew out of Miramar or Oceana, because she is responsible for reporting on the BS that was going on when women-aviators where not making the grade to the point of one of them buying the farm who never should have sat in a fighter to begin with.

For those who fought for the current standards where women don't get easier rules than men, Elaine Donnelly is indeed a hero.

[R. Scott]

Yes we saw how well the Ash and Trash defend themselves in fire fights. Half the weapons jammed from lack of maintenace in the ambush during the main offensive.

Remember that the Ash and Trash have as a main purpose to haul cargo. Their training is primarily in hauling cargo. In my own experience, weapons maintenance was limited to one day a year – when we used them to qualify. All of our weapons training and maintenance was limited to those few hours a year. Those involved in the ambush you refer to were in a similar situation according to all reports I have read.

As for bullets and beans, the point of it all is, every single branch of the army/airforce/navy is there for a single purpose: support the Army & Marine infantry and tankers who are the ones who at the end of the day either win the battle or loose the war.

Very true, and none should be denigrated.

[JillValentine]

So you don't like the way that article was "edited to emphasize the gender of the participants."

What about the Jessica Lynch incident? There were male soldiers there who performed as badly as she did, but you never hear about them. Lynch is emphasized because of her gender.

Are you okay with emphasizing the gender of soldiers when female soldiers perform poorly, but not when female soldiers perform well?

Claudia Kennedy is a woman who had a lot of stupid ideas and is a terrible role model. Soldiers like Sgt. Leigh Ann Hester and Spec. Ashley Pullen are much better role models for young women (and men) to look up to.