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(Fr.)Frank Pavone Discusses the Last Moments of Terri Schiavo
Fox News ^ | 3/31/05

Posted on 04/01/2005 7:47:01 AM PST by marshmallow

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To: conserv13

If it's too unsettling, don't climb in the ring with gloves on.


61 posted on 04/01/2005 8:47:21 AM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: lugsoul

"It didn't take much for that to get turned into "Michael made the family leave at the moment of death,"

Oh no you don't-- If we're to believe Felos, who said that Michael was informed by staff that he'd "better get in there" because the end was moments away, your spin is most inaccurate. You can read what Felos said, that's his spin, so the truth must be worse.


62 posted on 04/01/2005 8:47:35 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: lugsoul

So, you didn't read post #25, eh?


63 posted on 04/01/2005 8:47:48 AM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: marshmallow
Canard. If I said "politics comes out of the barrel of a gun" would that make me a "Mao admirer"?

Oh, yes - I forgot. It would here.

64 posted on 04/01/2005 8:48:29 AM PST by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: conserv13

No, this is the same priest who said they were denined....


65 posted on 04/01/2005 8:48:39 AM PST by 1stFreedom (1)
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To: marshmallow
Q: Was their any sign of response from Terri Schiavo?

PAVONE: Yes. And let me tell you, I’ll preface that by saying I visited with her several times before the feeding tube was removed. She was very responsive--closing her eyes when I said, “Let’s pray together, Terri,” opening them up after the prayer. Smiling, returning the kiss of her father. Turning her eyes to me when I spoke to her. In many other ways, as well, responsive.

The truth can only be suppressed for so long.

66 posted on 04/01/2005 8:48:41 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: KDD

There was only one post here about hating Michael. Do a search for yourself, troll.


67 posted on 04/01/2005 8:49:12 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: ColoCdn

I read it, but I don't care what Felos said. What I posted is what Bobby said. It is really hilarious that you would accuse someone of "sifting" for a version when you want to accept Felos' version over Bobby's.


68 posted on 04/01/2005 8:49:32 AM PST by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: lugsoul

"Oh, yes - I forgot. It would here."

Ad hominem on all FReepers. If the FACTS are too hot for you, get out of the kitchen.


69 posted on 04/01/2005 8:50:09 AM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: cajuncooker

It's all in who we choose to believe - a number of priests or a lying attorney.


70 posted on 04/01/2005 8:51:19 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: lugsoul

"I read it, but I don't care what Felos said."

Apparently, in your convenient little universe, you don't care about what anyone says, unless it fits your preconceptions.

What about the FACTS, "Wild Turkey"?


71 posted on 04/01/2005 8:51:33 AM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: ptlurking
He was on the Today show yesterday before Terri's passing and was most convincing.

He's a diamond formed in the intense pressures of the pro-life movement. He's the director of Priests for Life.

72 posted on 04/01/2005 8:51:53 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: conserv13; lugsoul

Bobby (who was in the room with Suzanne from 7 am til 8:50 or so) was escorted out by a policeman 10-15 min before Terri died when he insisted that he wanted, he needed to stay with Terri as he knew she was near death. They say he was 'creating a scene' . . . He's her BROTHER, her protector for all the years of their lives, of course he insisted on staying there, esp. as the ghouls were gathering to watch her draw her last precious breaths.

Who all was with Terri?

her loving husband, of course, and a few of his (and Terri's?) bestest buddies: felos, debra bushnell, hospice administrator, and hospice workers. But no police -- that would not have been appropriate for Terri's dignity, even though they had been right there in and at her room for all the time leading up to this. And certainly, no brother or sister.

btw, michael was provided with a room + bathroom in the hospice . . . and he (and in the last day, felos, debra bushnell) had the luxury of being right down the hall from Terri. So the OM can screw the crap about how he avoided the media cameras, as if he did some noble thing. besides, felos was there to hiss into the microphones any time it seemed to be to their advantage.

The Schindlers were afforded no such kindness, no room there at the hospice for their convenience and comfort -- even as they would be turned out of Terri's room at michael's desire, and have to leave and check back ("every half hour", Bobby was told in last day) to see when they might be permitted back in.

I thank God for the kind person who allowed them to stay at the shop across the street -- though they still had to walk through the rain, which was tremendous these past few weeks, the police, the dogs. . . the snipers on the roofs.


73 posted on 04/01/2005 8:52:07 AM PST by cyn (it's sarcasm, but Jim King really said it.)
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To: ColoCdn

I take it from your post that you now equate the statements of George Felos with "the FACTS." An amazing progression.


74 posted on 04/01/2005 8:52:45 AM PST by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: marshmallow
PAVONE: Certainly amazingly-time reflexes

I hate to be the schoolmarm here, but what he said was amazingly timed reflexes

It was a brilliant and caustic statement which exposed the ludicrous idea that Terri Schindler was some sort of "vegetative life" unworthy of being considered a human being.

She was conscious throughout her ordeal, and screaming inside for her parents - anyone - to help her.

But a thug state run by madmen could only laugh at her helplessness, as they enjoyed the cruelty of their verdict.

75 posted on 04/01/2005 8:52:58 AM PST by Regulator
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To: marshmallow

A bump for Fr. Pavone.


76 posted on 04/01/2005 8:53:01 AM PST by Siobhan (Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us.)
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To: marshmallow
That someone at a lower level of functioning can just be starved to death? That, of course, is the bigger question here. This is not just a death. This is a killing.

I had a thought on this statement regarding prisoners serving a life sentence without chance of parole. Since society has agreed that their lives are unproductive, can we now refuse to feed them? How 'bout if we follow Bill O'Reilly's recommendation and send such prisoners to the work in the ANWR, only now we could refuse to provide food, or any weapons for hunting.

77 posted on 04/01/2005 8:54:13 AM PST by Eva
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To: lugsoul
I really hate to say this about a man of the cloth - but given some of the things that have passed his lips this week, I don't believe a word Fr. Pavone says.

Here we go again.

Last night there was a thread making a goofy demand that proof be offered that Pavone was not lying (a logical impossibility.)

78 posted on 04/01/2005 8:54:29 AM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: ColoCdn

Not all. But many. In fact, many have posted the same exact statement to which I was responding, logical fallacy and all.


79 posted on 04/01/2005 8:54:35 AM PST by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: lugsoul

Your assumptions are as far-fetched and as wrong as your preconceptions.

You might try asking me, rather than opening your opinions and inserting your foot.


80 posted on 04/01/2005 8:55:05 AM PST by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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