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To: Gengis Khan

I was pretty shocked at the move by the US to arm Pakistan.. about like I felt when we gave that 20 mil to the Palestinians.. we can't play both sides..


3 posted on 03/31/2005 2:41:28 AM PST by Awestruck (Yes, prayer does help and it is important~!)
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To: Awestruck
"we can't play both sides."

But it seems we always do. I had hoped the days of zig zag diplomacy were behind us but this Pak thing is troubling. I hope I'm wrong when I say that I think we will regret our reliance/closeness to Pak. After all, it IS a very unstable country and God forbid that something should happen to Musharaf.

On the other hand I do feel some reassurance that by using our equipment we retain some control over the operation and maintenance requirements.

5 posted on 03/31/2005 2:49:47 AM PST by drt1
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To: Awestruck

All I can tell you is that at this moment most Indians are miffed. US credibility is down to the dumps and bigtime.


6 posted on 03/31/2005 2:50:19 AM PST by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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To: Awestruck
US had to give something to Pakistan in exchange of participation for the war against Terrorism in the region even that was something very limited. In fact, what has India provided to the US for the war against Afghanistan and Iraq? Meanwhile, US is giving more options to India with F-16s, F-18E/Fs and a lip service to suggesting to make India another Super Power.
7 posted on 03/31/2005 2:58:20 AM PST by Wiz
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To: Awestruck

http://www.keralanext.com/news/indexread.asp?id=168525

US acknowledges rhetoric has to match action :
1 Hour,48 minutes Ago


[India News] New Delhi, In a tacit acknowledgement that its avowed intention to make India a "world power" has not impressed most Indians, the US has said that it has to match rhetoric with action.

"We must match the rhetoric of our aspirations with a programme to realise them. Both of our great nations must take substantive - and occasionally difficult -- steps to move away from past prejudices and practices into a new world of cooperation and partnership," US Ambassador to India David Mulford said in a statement released by the embassy Thursday.

"It is now official. It is the policy of the United States to help India become a major world power in the 21st century," he said and added this was what Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice conveyed to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh during her recent visit to India.



Most Indian political parties have criticised what they consider the patronising tone of the US offer and described it as an attempt to assuage Delhi over Washington's decision to sell F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan - a "great disappointment" in the words of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

Mulford however described the US move as an "exciting turning point to years of hard work to transform the U.S.-India bilateral relationship into a true strategic partnership."

Rice's visit was to share with the Indian leadership "a vision for a decisively broader strategic relationship, to help India achieve its goals as one of the world's great multiethnic democracies," he said.



"This vision embraces cooperation on a global strategy for peace, on defence, on energy, and on economic growth. It is now clear what she meant by this", he said.

According to the envoy, there is no fundamental conflict or disagreement between the US and India on any important regional and global issue.

"We work closely together in countering terrorism, share the view that extremist governments have no place in the international system, cooperate in fighting health issues such as HIV/AIDS and polio, and work together to build a much stronger economic relationship", he said.



He said the two countries were poised for a partnership that will be crucial in shaping the international order in the 21st century.

The Next Steps in the Strategic Partnership (NSSP) initiative launched by the two countries last year helped build trust and cooperation in sensitive areas - civilian nuclear technology, civil space technology, high-technology trade, and a dialogue on missile defense, he said and added "important progress" had been made in each of these areas.

"Secretary Rice shared with her Indian interlocutors the President's vision that the United States and India must broaden this cooperation to help us achieve our shared objective - making India the global power it can and should be," he added.

He said the US-India dialogue would not only address important global and regional security problems, but would move "much deeper into engagement on India's defence requirements, including discussion of co-production and addressing India's concern about the United States as a reliable supplier."


8 posted on 03/31/2005 2:59:35 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Awestruck

We'll just set up a dozen more call centers in Calcutta in exchange. Not to worry.


23 posted on 03/31/2005 3:30:25 AM PST by toddlintown (This Bud's a Dud.)
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To: Awestruck

One rewards one when one helps one in a time of need, even at some risk. Pakistan did that. Bush is correct on this one. We may need in the course of events a redux performance from someone. They need to see the benefits of just saying "yes" to Uncle.


162 posted on 03/31/2005 8:44:37 PM PST by Torie
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To: Awestruck

US tells India buy more arms ...


234 posted on 04/01/2005 6:50:54 PM PST by John Lenin
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