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To: sukhoi-30mki; Gengis Khan; SaltyJoe; familyop
First of all, let's get one thing strait. From the manner of your posts, you appear to think that I am putting India down for some reason. Nothing could be farther from the truth. India is quickly becoming a major player, not only in the east but in the world. I have personally benefited from Indian intellect as my neuro-surgeon is Indian. He removed 2 of my discs and replaced them with carbon fiber. I have nothing but the utmost respect for his talents.
 
You all say India will not sell oil to China, I hope that you are right. India is already playing both sides as they are manufacturing computers for Russian fighters are they not? They are in the unique position of being privy to both US and Russian technology. I am merely pointing out India's political position in ongoing developments. To think India will not use whatever means to their own benefit, is ridiculous. That includes Iranian oil. It is how the game is played. Iran needs an outlet to the world market. It appears India is going to supply that outlet. Or are you saying any and all oil out of this pipeline will stay in India? B.S.! I have a real problem believing that.
 
India is no victim here. They are in the process of becoming a world power. The title of this thread was "US tells India to drop dead", we are playing the world game just as India is. Don't beat up the US for doing the same thing India does.

189 posted on 03/31/2005 10:13:43 PM PST by Allosaurs_r_us (Idaho Carnivores for Conservatism)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us

If you are aware of the fineprint of this proposed pipeline,you will notice that it will pass through Pakistan & onto India.Hence Pakistan will get cheap gas along with a tollfee.Do you honestly think China is going to build a pipeline across 3 countries & that too through disputed territory???& do you know how much India's energy consumption will be by 2020???It will be just below the US & China.About Iran needing an outlet,hope you know that China recently delivered a fleet of supertankers to Iran's national oil company.No prices for guessing where the cargo is likely to go.China is also working on deposits much closer to home,including in Indonesia,Turkmenistan & Kazakhistan & these are far more sensible(politically & economically) than a pipeline through 3 nations.

India has built the weapons computer for the variant of the SU-30 fighter which Russia has built SPECIFICALLY for it's airforce & which won't be exported without Indian consent.India also uses weaponry from Israel,France,Italy,Britain among others.Those folks don't have a problem & your fear only holds if India chooses to buy American weaponry.


191 posted on 03/31/2005 10:23:22 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Allosaurs_r_us

All the gas won't stay in India.It will be used by Indian industry & consumers!!!


192 posted on 03/31/2005 10:24:31 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Allosaurs_r_us
It's that dinosaur graphic...it's distracting me!

I'm sure India will do what's best for India. I also don't see a problem with India selling oil on the open market. Restricting growth to a growing nation can reduce the region to war. That's one of the reasons why WW2 happened.

I hope that India is encouraged to explore oil off its own coast as much as possible (less likely to have a Spratly Island dispute off India's coast). Perhaps the latest tsunami will reveal such mixed blessings. The offshore changes can also spark new interests in cultural exploration for the ancient subterranean cities revealed.

Using nuclear power should have a neutralizing effect for politics since it reduces the demand for the same limited resources of fossil fuels. If mankind's ingenuity focused as sharply on making nuclear energy efficient, we'd be very far along considering what we've done to an automobile engine from the last century. Dumping used radioactive waste will be a challenge met along with developing the technology to use it. I don't doubt India to harmonize such abilities with responsibilities.
193 posted on 03/31/2005 10:26:46 PM PST by SaltyJoe (stay in a State of Grace)
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Pakistan & China are building a deepwater port on Iran's border region.That could be the outlet & a far more politically safe one for China.LNG from there could technically be piped to China(Tibet) through Gilgit & Baltistan & the distance is far lesser than it is through India.


194 posted on 03/31/2005 10:29:35 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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Image Hosted by ImageShack.us A Chinese built supertanker for Iran.
195 posted on 03/31/2005 10:40:46 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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