Posted on 03/31/2005 2:37:47 AM PST by Gengis Khan
Yes, we could talk all day about Israeli tech tranfers to China......:)
Akin to that if you remove all that diplomatic smooth talk.
Very well said.
Umm,Ronald Reagan & Rajiv Gandhi signed watershed agreements on Defense & technology cooperation in the early 80s.US companies( NG in particular) cooperated with India on it's indegnious Light combat aircraft & the US supplied subsystems for the Indian navy's Sea Harrier & SeaKing aircraft.The IN's 4 Type-209 class subs use US firecontrol systems.That was just a start & Bush sr continued things,but Billyboy slowed things down,before killing it(& restarting it!!!).You are right,GWB has offered India much,but to be blunt,those offers don't go as far as the kind of cooperation that Russia,Israel & France have with India.
Let's do just that then. I believe Israel felt really pi$$ed when America stopped them from selling the Phalcon AWACS at the last minute. Thankfully, Bush gave the go-ahead for that sale to be diverted to India.
To be fair to the Israelis,their relationship started with the PRC when Beijing was the buzzword in the West.The US did supply plenty of systems to the Chinese in late 70s & most of the 80s & that's when cooperation regarding the Lavi began with China.
"Recognize Taiwan, sign a defense treaty with it, ensure it gets massive investment in return, to heck with "Chinese sensibilities". If Chicoms can try to encircle India, well, two can play that game."
And then what?...Have Paki F-16s (gifted by America) and Chicom Su30s raiding our capital from opposite directions?
Translation of article: The US wants more help from Pakistan in the hunt for bin Ladin on its Afghan border.
I guess their skipping the whole national infrastructure thing what with indoor plumbing, diesel powered trains, a road system, and jumping straight to the high tech weapons and gadgets?
I'm really getting tired of the "ancient civilizations" downing the US because we've only been around a couple hundred years. You'd think that these long time countries would have progressed beyond caste systems, rickshaw draggin', and eating bugs.
Lets see if I've got this right - we put men on the moon almost 40 years ago, and these jacka$$es are just now getting a squadron of supersonic fighters together?
The only reason every man woman and child in the US has not progressed beyond what we have is because we're being held back by these turd worlder's.
I recall an airshow exhibit of a new Chinese fighter that resembled an F16, was on display for one day and was pulled from public view. I thought then, they copied our MD F16 from the missing Taiwanese one.
Which can be interpreted as the US should have sold attack Apaches or Blackhawks with stand off missiles & upgraded the Pakistani Orions to be used for overland surveillance rather than sell F-16s.
China won't be able to attack India and Taiwan at the same time.
That too when India and the US are natural allies.
I'm guessing Sukhoi, but I bet the F-16's were promised to Pakistani from day one for their help in Afganistan. They wanted and needed F-16 spares so badly before 9/11 that I can't believe the issue wouldn't have come up from the start.
Yes. It was also amazing how the Israeli Lavi looked just like an F-16 with canards ;)
India aligning itself against China would require a formal alliance with the US. India cant and wont go it alone against China.
And India will be willing to have an alliance with the US only if the US is willing to let go of Pakistan.
Yep,that's the most logical reason.Besides,gifts can also be used to encourage behaviour along expected lines,if not for rewards.Pakistan's record on nuclear proliferation & shutting down of terror groups hasn't been too satisfactory.Though I doubt things will drastically change with the military in power.
Wasn't the LAVI a joint US-Israeli project???IIRC,Lockheed Martin was involved.
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