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Politician wants Maris' 61 reinstated as record (Senator says steroids nullifies Bonds...)
MSNBC ^ | March 30, 2005

Posted on 03/31/2005 1:49:18 AM PST by nickcarraway

N. Dakota senator says steroids nullifies Bonds, McGwire, Sosa

A North Dakota legislator is trying to muscle Roger Maris' 61-homer season back into baseball's record books because of allegations that the three players who have surpassed him did so with the help of steroids.

"If these folks are on the juice, and I believe they're on the juice, then Roger should get his record back," Sen. Joel Heitkamp said.

He's sponsoring a resolution that asks baseball commissioner Bud Selig to reinstate Maris' record of 61 home runs in 1961. A spokesman for baseball did not respond to a request for comment.

The North Dakota Senate's Education Committee, which reviewed the resolution Monday, took less than 20 minutes to recommend that the full Senate approve it.

Maris, born in Hibbing, Minn., was a high school football star and American Legion baseball standout in Fargo, N.D., which has a museum displaying his memorabilia and a cancer treatment center named for him. Maris was buried in Fargo after his death from lymphoma in 1985.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: baseball; bonds; homeruns; maris; mcgwire; senate; steroids; yankees
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To: Neville72

"Those records will have zero credibility with most fans as long as the clueless, embarrassing Bud Selig continues to defend them"

And that is baseballs problem to worry about and fix, not the taxpayers. Believe me, if enough people get tired of the crap MLB does and stop paying their outrageous prices to go to games because of it, you would see the league start to hemmorage money and change its ways in a heartbeat. Congress has no business spending our money to "save" a privately owned group that is too stupid to realize how badly they are being managed.


21 posted on 03/31/2005 3:54:17 AM PST by frankiep
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To: frankiep
"Believe me, if enough people get tired of the crap MLB does and stop paying their outrageous prices to go to games

MLB doesn't give a hoot about the true baseball fan. It want's to appeal to a broader base, hince the lower mound, shrunken strike zone, juiced ball, juiced players. There aren't enough true baseball fans to support the game as such. Without TV revenue the players would be makeing about $100,000 each. The park attendence is meaninless as they couldn't survive on ticket sales alone.

Congress has no business spending our money to "save" a privately owned group

AMEN

22 posted on 03/31/2005 4:07:07 AM PST by SCALEMAN (Super Cards/Rams Fan)
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To: nickcarraway
In other words, sex isn't sex, alone isn't alone, and the meaning of 'is' is subjective......but McGuire's been PROVEN to do nothing wrong so he gets thrown out?

I like some proof before I make decisions.

23 posted on 03/31/2005 4:15:16 AM PST by OldFriend (JUST SAW MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ON CSPAN........AWESOME)
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To: nickcarraway
*Maris's record is based on the farcically extended 162 game season. Return the record to Babe Ruth who was able to get 60 in a reasonable 154 game season.
24 posted on 03/31/2005 4:23:58 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Blackwell for Governor 2006: hated by the 'Rats, feared by the RINOs.)
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To: nickcarraway

Man, am I glad these guys are in session on our dime to worry about this.

Thank God that things are going so well in the US that there is nothing more important to worry about than baseball records.

Whew!!


25 posted on 03/31/2005 4:40:08 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: KarlInOhio
I think North Dakota should establish their own sports records that are the only accepted statistics in the kingdom of Nor Dak. That's what I would do.
26 posted on 03/31/2005 4:53:27 AM PST by AlbertWang
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To: frankiep

THis is a state legislature. Not the Feds. Do you understand the difference?


27 posted on 03/31/2005 12:03:44 PM PST by stands2reason (When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
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To: nickcarraway

This will solve the problem "*"


28 posted on 03/31/2005 12:11:24 PM PST by John Lenin (Everything they do backfires, this is no exception)
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To: stands2reason

Yes, I do understand the difference. Note how I said the ND senator, not the senator from ND. Does that make you feel better? Didn't mean to piss in your cornflakes and I'm sorry if I somehow offended you.
And it doesn't matter what kind of senator it is, it does not change the fact that he has no business sticking his nose into this. That is the whole point.


29 posted on 03/31/2005 2:26:22 PM PST by frankiep
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To: frankiep

You didn't offend me.

I just don't believe the state senate of ND has to deal with illegal immigrants and Terri Shiavo.

What I think is you misread the article, thinking it was the national senate and now you're trying to backtrack out of it.


30 posted on 03/31/2005 3:11:53 PM PST by stands2reason (When in doubt, err on the side of life.)
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To: dennisw
I like Roger Maris, even read his biography, but talk about a pandering hack of a politician ...... and they think that Tom Delay was pandering to America's serious Christians with that Terri Schiavo bill?? I could not agree more.
31 posted on 03/31/2005 6:12:39 PM PST by Teplukin (u)
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To: stands2reason

You're right, the state senate of ND doesn't have to deal with illegal immigrants or Terri Schiavo because it doesn't concern that state. But neither does baseball. They don't even have a major league team in the state so he shouldn't be concerned about it.

None of this matters though because the whole point is that a politican, regardless of what state he is from or what his specific title is, has absolutely no business using his office as a way to influence who does and does not get into the baseball hall of fame. I don't care if it's the President, a national senator, a state senator, a city councilman, or the head of the PTA; if baseball wants to destroy itself it has every right to do so without interference from the nanny-state.

I didn't misread the article and I'm not trying to backtrack off of anything.


32 posted on 04/01/2005 12:06:55 AM PST by frankiep
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To: dwilli

Do you seriously think they are nOT ? Come in , be real.


33 posted on 04/01/2005 12:14:12 AM PST by hineybona
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To: DustyMoment

I think the concern is that thousands of high school kids are shooting this crap because baseball has allowed it to be acceptable .


34 posted on 04/01/2005 12:15:49 AM PST by hineybona
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To: hineybona

"I think the concern is that thousands of high school kids are shooting this crap because baseball has allowed it to be acceptable ."

That's just another nanny-state arguement.
It is a problem that high school kids are using this stuff but it is not the job of a nanny-state to enforce that pro baseball players are good role models for kids. It is the parents job to make sure that their kids have good role models, not the governments.


35 posted on 04/01/2005 12:33:56 AM PST by frankiep
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To: hineybona

That's what the politicians would have you think. This guy is a Maris fan whose greatest, overriding concern in the world is restoring Maris' record.

He's not worried about the government sanctioned murder of a brain-damaged womman in FL. He isn't worried about the national debt, the fact that we have no real energy policy in this country, he isn't worried about the looming collapse of SS, he isn't worried about squat that has to do with what he was sent to Wash. to do.

His biggest concern in the whole, wide world is restoring Maris' record becaise it's (say it with me) "For the children!"


36 posted on 04/01/2005 3:22:14 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment

Politicians need to keep out of sports, as I've said before.


37 posted on 04/14/2005 4:46:03 PM PDT by darkangel82
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To: hineybona
I think the concern is that thousands of high school kids are shooting this crap because baseball has allowed it to be acceptable .

Unh-huh.

As opposed to the crap being shot up, snorted, smoked, rubbed into their bellies, whatever, by NFL players, NBA players, NHL players, etc., etc., etc.

Sorry, I'm not buying it. This politician is just pushing for a second day in the sun for his favorite player.

I like Maris, too. I also like Mantel, Staubach, Blackman and a bunch of others whose day has come and gone. That's life.

If this is this politician's biggest concern, he needs more to do. Perhaps if he had a real job . . . . . . .
38 posted on 04/14/2005 6:42:24 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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