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Truly, Madly, Guiltily (SHE LOVES HER HUSBAND MORE THAN HER CHILDREN)
The New York Times ^ | 3/27/05 | Ayelet Waldman

Posted on 03/30/2005 8:13:49 PM PST by paulat

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To: pbrown

Children are disowned all the time. That's neither here nor there.

The point is that the introduction of children into a family should not change the behavior between the husband and the wife.

It should not. But it all too often does. And it is usually the woman who changes. The first thing to go is the sex. That's what the writer of this article talks about in the first paragraph, the way most women change.

But not all women experience this change. It's taboo to talk about, just like it's taboo to say you don't want children at all. Those threads always draw animosity on Free Republic. People who don't want kids are called selfish.

I can relate to this woman because the thought of losing my husband in death is the scariest thing I can imagine. That kind of connection, that "best friend" doesn't come along often. The thought of losing him through divorce is unimaginable. He'd have to become someone other than the person he was at the start, and that's certainly possible, but it won't happen because I put the children before him.

I don't see how this woman is a bad or inferior mother because she raves more about the man she chose and connected with. It's okay for men to admit that when their children are young, they don't go ga-ga crazy. Well some women are the same way, doesn't mean they don't love their kids.


61 posted on 03/30/2005 10:04:04 PM PST by DameAutour
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To: paulat

Another Andrea Yates in the making.


62 posted on 03/30/2005 10:05:21 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: paulat

I bet if she had 4 husbands and one child she would love the child more.


63 posted on 03/30/2005 10:07:21 PM PST by Recall
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To: Recall

If she had four husbands and one child, she'd probably die with a smile on her face.


64 posted on 03/30/2005 10:10:47 PM PST by RichInOC (...oops, did I say that out loud?)
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To: pbrown; All
Nice of you to say, pbrown but it wasn't a saying really. I was responding to HuntsvilleTxVeteran when he said "A good women has enough love to give her husband and children plenty. And enough left over to love every one who is good and just." I'm sure he didn't mean it in a "mean" way but it just further supports my feelings that women are pressured to live up to a standard and when we don't, we are not "good." When someone gives me a job to do, it is not only in my best interest but also in their own best interest to enable me to do it. In other words, don't tell me to cook a meal and not give me the food to prepare the meal. I'm convinced that when a man loves a woman, he not only provides but also enables her to be the loving woman that she can be. In the end, everyone wins. = )
65 posted on 03/30/2005 10:11:09 PM PST by Fatigued Mother
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To: trussell

A sense of humor [especially about former spousen] , and wisdom, too.

How VERY uncommon.


66 posted on 03/30/2005 10:18:40 PM PST by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: paulat

Excellent piece. I think she's right.


67 posted on 03/30/2005 10:19:22 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: steve8714

LOL! I think I love you!


68 posted on 03/30/2005 10:20:36 PM PST by HoHoeHeaux
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To: George Smiley

Just checked out your profile page...you seem to have a very good sense of humor too! :)


69 posted on 03/30/2005 10:23:36 PM PST by trussell (I am frowning today. God please save Terri, comfort her family. Grant them rest, and peace.)
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To: trussell

Hon,

There have been times in my life where humor was the only alternative to going batshit crazy.

I ain't updated that thing in a coupla years.

Go to the Links.


70 posted on 03/30/2005 10:27:06 PM PST by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: Ulysses

It's called the PRIORITIES in life, GOD first, then your spouse, then your family.


71 posted on 03/30/2005 10:29:21 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: pbrown

I believe you are describing the natural history of motherhood. When they are babies, the maternal love is overwhelming, all-encompassing. Which is as it should be when they need you 24/7. As they grow, the maternal bonds naturally loosen, as they should. The focus returns to the husband. I am grateful that my husband understood this and was patient when I was occupied with babies. Now that the children are mostly grown, the focus has returned to him.


72 posted on 03/30/2005 10:31:36 PM PST by knuthom
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To: knuthom
I am grateful that my husband understood this and was patient when I was occupied with babies

That's why workshops were invented.

: ^ )

73 posted on 03/30/2005 10:33:23 PM PST by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: paulat

What is it with New York City women that they have to obsess about their sex lives, either for good or ill?


74 posted on 03/30/2005 10:37:15 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Ulysses

Thank you for your post. I am single, 28 yrs old. The product of divorced parents (I was 2 at the time). I gotta tell you, I long for this type of relationship. I don't see anything wrong with this article. Children grow up and leave. Your spouse is forever. A buddy once told me "Don't marry someone you can live with. Marry someone you can't live without.


75 posted on 03/30/2005 10:37:35 PM PST by thefactor
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To: George Smiley

At 37 years old...I am going to own my first gun in less than a month. I go next weekend for the CCW class, and then I will decide what caliber of weapon I want.

I may have to look through some of those threads and see if I can pick up any important info that will be useful to me! I need something that will not only stop a person in their tracks, but will drop them like a lead weight at close range! Any ideas?


76 posted on 03/30/2005 10:37:39 PM PST by trussell (I am frowning today. God please save Terri, comfort her family. Grant them rest, and peace.)
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To: trussell

Well, a .45 will drop pretty much anyone. A .40 will also do the job. A 9mm is smaller but is usually enough for stopping power. Anything smaller than that (.380, .25, .22) might be too small. Then there are the .38's and the .357's. It depends on where you live too. Is it highly populated? Factors like that do make a difference. Also how much you shoot. The bigger the gun, the more expensive the ammo. Hollow points are for carrying and they are expensive. Practice rounds are cheaper and also less powerful b/c they have less grains.


77 posted on 03/30/2005 10:45:44 PM PST by thefactor
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To: thefactor

You have freepmail!


78 posted on 03/30/2005 10:57:59 PM PST by trussell (I am frowning today. God please save Terri, comfort her family. Grant them rest, and peace.)
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To: Ulysses
"...is the MOST IMPORTANT relationship next to their relationship with God."

Sometimes I'll play a game with the kids and whisper (but loud enough so the others can hear) "Don't tell the others, but I love YOU the most." Then work my way to the other two.

Usually it gets interrupted with "No - you love us all!" "But - you love Mom most". "And you love GOD most of all".
79 posted on 03/30/2005 11:12:13 PM PST by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: paulat

My wife and I used to talk during sex to increase communication. I would say, "Are you awake." and she would reply, "zzzzzzz."


80 posted on 03/30/2005 11:18:31 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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