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Court rules telecommuter must pay taxes
Boston Globe ^ | March 29, 2005 | Michael Gormley

Posted on 03/30/2005 7:01:06 AM PST by TexanTransplant

Court rules telecommuter must pay taxes

By Michael Gormley, Associated Press Writer | March 29, 2005 ALBANY, N.Y.

-- A telecommuter who lives out of state while working by computer for a New York employer must pay New York tax on his full income, the state's highest court ruled Tuesday in a case that could have wide implications in the growing practice.

The Court of Appeals said that computer programmer Thomas Huckaby who lives in Nashville, Tenn., owed New York income tax for his full salary, not just the time he spent working at his employer's New York offices.

......The issue split the court, and the majority acknowledged the decision could discourage telecommuting. "New York has the right to tax 100 percent of a nonresident employee's income derived from New York sources," according to the 4-3 decision by Court of Appeals. The court relied on a fairness rule called the "convenience of the employer" under law that says a worker's income is taxable if he chooses to live outside the state, as opposed to if he or she was transferred there. In a strong dissent, Judge Robert Smith argued that the basis of the majority's decision that all income is taxable is "that the commissioner says it is ... The majority cites no authority at all, and offers no persuasive reason, in support of this new interpretation." "To say a person's taxability depends on where his employer is wrong," said Huckaby's attorney, Peter Faber of New York City. "I think this is an issue of national significance."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: extortion; govwatch; repeat; taxes
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This is very disturbing. My better half telecommutes from CA. That's a 10% income tax that we'd have to pay to a state we don't live in. Ouch. And we moved to TX to escape the taxes of the east coast. I'm afraid "this new interpretation" will spread like wildfire across the nation.
1 posted on 03/30/2005 7:01:07 AM PST by TexanTransplant
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To: TexanTransplant

Well, what other ruling did anyone expect from the state of New York? It's a place where "It belongs to the state" is the default answer to almost any question you care to ask.


2 posted on 03/30/2005 7:04:02 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: TexanTransplant

If it applies to americans, then let's hope it also applies to India, South Africa, and other telemarketers and telecomputer businesses.

Either no charge for everyone or the reverse, everyone gets the same charge.


3 posted on 03/30/2005 7:05:10 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: TexanTransplant

Is it any wonder why many people don't report or under report income at every opportunity?


4 posted on 03/30/2005 7:05:15 AM PST by Kokojmudd (Today's Liberal is Tomorrow's Prospective Flying Saucer Abductee)
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To: TexanTransplant

Sounds like a stretch to me.

What are the extended repercussions for employees of companies headquartered in New York?? Does the opposite apply too??? If it does then employees in New York who telecommute as employees of companies outside of New York should not have to pay taxes to New York right?? If that is true then how simple would it be for employers to rearrange reporting authorities. The judges may have outsmarted themselves on this one.


5 posted on 03/30/2005 7:06:14 AM PST by Pylot
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New York...the once great state now taken over by the Da Fuherer....Hillary Clinton. I suppose this is what she means by taking things away for the common good. (see tagline)

If they can tax telecommuters...a sales tax on internet purchases is not that far away.

6 posted on 03/30/2005 7:06:19 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" - Hillary Clinton)
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To: TexanTransplant
F*** New York.

Seriously.

7 posted on 03/30/2005 7:07:22 AM PST by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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It is doubtful that the issue of location of residence versus employment for tax purposes will be resolved without an act of Congress. If they weren't so busy doling out pork they might have already done so.
8 posted on 03/30/2005 7:07:39 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: TexanTransplant
Not to mention the onus that will be placed on the worker to fend off competing claims from the taxing authorities of his physical location and those other taxing jurisdictions who will claim their pound of flesh.

All the more reason for major revamping of the tax codes to reflect the realities of 21st Century Life and assigning tax revenues to locales where services are actually used and not where a tax hungry public entity (Is there any other kind?) can try to collect them.

9 posted on 03/30/2005 7:08:23 AM PST by drt1
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
If they can tax telecommuters...a sales tax on internet purchases is not that far away.

I already collect one for in-State purchases.

10 posted on 03/30/2005 7:08:27 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: TexanTransplant

pay taxes in the state you reside in and also the state you telecommute to. What part of your earnings do you have left after that?


11 posted on 03/30/2005 7:09:45 AM PST by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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If it does then employees in New York who telecommute as employees of companies outside of New York should not have to pay taxes to New York right??

No. You see, this is how New York wants it to run:


12 posted on 03/30/2005 7:09:59 AM PST by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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To: TexanTransplant

He's fortunate that Tennessee doesn't have an income tax, because he'd be paying two state income taxes on top of his federal taxes.


13 posted on 03/30/2005 7:10:19 AM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: xzins

A UN tax would solve that problem. Kofi wants it.


14 posted on 03/30/2005 7:10:56 AM PST by unkus
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To: Carry_Okie

I think it is time for another BOSTON TEA PARTY. Taxation, AND THE LIBERALS DRIVING IT, way out of control.


15 posted on 03/30/2005 7:10:59 AM PST by EagleUSA (Q)
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To: TexanTransplant

New York seems to be at the forefront of trying to squeeze every tax dollar it can out of non-New Yorkers.


17 posted on 03/30/2005 7:11:59 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: TexanTransplant

I don't get it. If he refuses to pay the taxes is there an extradition treaty? Seems to me this is one for the Supreme Court. What if someone publishes a book in New York but lives in Wyoming? Are they required to pay New York and Wyoming taxes?


18 posted on 03/30/2005 7:12:10 AM PST by Casloy
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If it does then employees in New York who telecommute as employees of companies outside of New York should not have to pay taxes to New York right??

You're being to logical.

This is a one way street. Money always belongs to the state, we are just serfs.

19 posted on 03/30/2005 7:12:24 AM PST by george wythe
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