[Raycpa]

I am sorry that you and others are unable to talk about this issue in a civilized manner.

Yes, we must not resort to uncivil discourse, like umm telling others that they are guilty of torture. Yes, that would not be behavior becoming a freeper.

[Hunble]

Take the tube out...

Put the tube back in...

Take the tube out...

Put the tube back in...

Take the tube out...

Put the tube back in...

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Your are correct, and I should never have considered this as a form of torture.