'Something is terribly, terribly wrong': Victor Davis Hanson on immigration "seeming insanity"

WORLD ^ | 4/2/05 | Marvin Olasky

[A. Pole]

We are recovering some of the 19th-century understanding in poverty fighting;

What is this "19th-century understanding in poverty fighting"? The one found in Charles Dickens and Jack London's novels or in the writtings of the socialists or in Malthus or in social darwinism or in Bismarck social programms?

[billbears]

I do not argue that you should "disbelieve" the President, although I don't put much stock in what Vicente Fox has to say.

I don't believe the President very much, could care less what Fox has to say, but I wouldn't believe Victor Hanson if he told me the sky was blue. That a faux conservative has discovered some semblance of actual conservative thought in between is hawkish rants isn't much news.

[SE Mom]

ping for later read

[junta]

MY damn sarcasm tag got lost, so excuse me.

[ninenot]

Whatever it may be, you can find a short and cohesive synthesis in a Victor D Hanson editorial released today on Jewish World Review.

At least judging by his above-cited editorial, Hanson has a good grip on the moral questions, as well as the political ones.

Read in conjunction with Diane Alden's lenghty piece in today's Newsmax, it's fair to say that the Conservatives are finally turning against the Fortune 100/NeoCon alliance...

[ninenot]

Next thing you know, ol' junta will be telling us that officials of the ExIm Bank don't know ANYTHING about over-priced contracts they finance...

[janetgreen]

I'm a GWB supporter ~ he's just not protecting our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders ~ it's that simple!

This is the exact reason I refused to support GWB in 2004, and will never support another open borders politician again. He has left America wide open. He has failed to uphold his oath of office.

[blackie]

What would the lying traitor JF'nK have done, that would have been better!

Voting for some .05% third party candidate, won't get it either.

It's about holding our leaders accountable and empowering them to do what's right.

Whining about it, will not get the job done.

[janetgreen]

Many of us feel that we've been waiting for 4-1/2 years for our "leaders" to be accountable, and they have failed. I won't vote for what I don't respect. I'll vote principle over party from now on, and let the chips fall where they may...

[potlatch]

There should be no more public tolerance for the racism of an organization like MECHA or La Raza

I agree with that. What an outcry there would be if we started organizations like that.

[Happy2BMe]

"As I've said before, "Hispanics" aren't a race at all - merely a made-up conglomerate lumped together for the purpose of obtaining victimhood status from the Federal government."

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Wanna tell that one to some of these folks?

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"While I am saying this half serious and half joking, I think we are practicing la reconquista in California."
~ Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General, Feb 2002.

"I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important - a very important - part of this."
~ Ernesto Zedillo, Former President of Mexico, speaking in Chicago, July 23, 1997.

"Mexico extends beyond its borders."
~ Vicente Fox, Current President of Mexico, speaking to a gathering in Milwaukee in July of 2001

"California is going to be a Hispanic State and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. They should go back to Europe."
~ Mario Obledo, President of the Californian Coalition of Hispanic Organisations, June 1998

"Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes..." "To the gringos in the audience, I have one final message to convey, 'Up yours, baby. You've had it, from now on.' "
~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas.

"We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population... I love it. They are sh!tting in their pants with fear. I love it.... We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
~ Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas.

"Remember 187 (proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non citizens) was the last gasp of white America in California."
~ Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party in front of 400 cheering Latinos at U.C. Riverside on January 14, 1995.

"We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos... non-Latinos aren't watching, they aren't raising questions"
~ Fernando Guerra, professor, Loyola Marymount

"Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. .. Through love of having children, we are going to take over."
~ Augustin Cebeda, of the 'Brown Berets', a militant Aztlan group at a violent rally in Los Angeles on July 4, 2000.

"Fair housing agencies report a surge in discrimination by immigrant landlords from many nations who refuse to rent outside their ethnic group."
~ Reported in Los Angeles Times, Nov. 21 2001.

"In an extraordinary political move, President Vicente Fox has announced the formation of a cabinet level agency to govern, protect and provide services to over 20 million Mexicans now living in Aztlan, a territory encompassing most of the southwest part of the USA. President Fox declared yesterday that he will personally lead the new agency he named "Consejo Nacional para las Comunidades Mexicanas en el Exterior" (National Council for Mexican Communities Abroad). The "Council" will consist of the president, most of the cabinet secretaries and a, as of yet unnamed, representative from Aztlan. This is a bold move that essentially extends the arm of the Mexican government into the territories it previously lost during the Mexican-American War of 1848."
~ Reported in "La Voz de Aztlan", August 7, 2002.

"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."
~Thomas Borge, Nicaragua Interior Minister as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985

[potlatch]

And I am now a minority in Texas!! Wonder if I can get some free cheese?

[Fledermaus]

VDH is probably the second most intelligent man in the universe...right behind Dr. Thomas Sowell.

[Travis McGee]

[seemoAR]

Look up the definition of treason. Are we at war if some of our unwanted guest are planning to take over the south west part of our nation? Could anybody be charged with an act of treason?

[Happy2BMe]

#75

Main Entry: trea·son
Pronunciation: 'trE-z^&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English tresoun, from Old French traison, from Latin tradition-, traditio act of handing over, from tradere to hand over, betray -- more at TRAITOR
1 : the betrayal of a trust : TREACHERY
2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family

[seemoAR]

Also, Article Three of the United States Constitution defines treason as only levying war against The United States or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort and requires the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act or a confession in open court for conviction.

I was wondering about the meaning of giving aid and comfort to their enemies.

[little jeremiah]

Excellent assessment. I wish that those who are in a position to do anything pay attention to him.

But they probably aren't.

[little jeremiah]

Mexico's President? ????? You must be mad.

[Happy2BMe]

If you need a witness to testify we are under an invasion by an illegal alien invsion, you won't have to go far . .

(You want on my ping list, bud?)

IMMIGRATION RALLY (After Action Photos)

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Dateline: Carlsbad (First person account of SoCal anti-illegal immigration town hall forum)