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Cracks caused 2002 China Airlines crash: report
Associated Press ^ | Fri. Feb. 25 2005 6:46 AM ET | Staff

Posted on 03/29/2005 4:31:57 PM PST by Paleo Conservative

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Associated Press | 13 August 2002 | Lawsuit accuses Boeing of failing to inform China Airlines about repair problems

1 posted on 03/29/2005 4:31:57 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
This is a different photo (of a manufacturer's test) but if shows a nice tail strike.
2 posted on 03/29/2005 4:48:15 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Beelzebubba
Here is something you might find interesting.

I'm wondering if it was this China Airlines 747-400 that was bought back by Boeing to be rebuilt as the second of three 747 LCF aircraft.

Boeing.com | Feb. 22, 2005 | Boeing's 747 Large Cargo Freighter Development on Plan | Post #91

3 posted on 03/29/2005 4:59:15 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: COEXERJ145; microgood; starfish923; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; ...
Ping!

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4 posted on 03/29/2005 5:00:46 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
China Airlines, which has one of the industry's worst safety records, said in a statement that since much of the wreckage wasn't recovered, "the available information is not conclusive enough to determine the exact cause of the accident."

But the carrier added, "China Airlines respects the investigation report. The ASC also respects China Airlines differing opinions."

The plane had been repaired with 31 patches, and the airline failed to perform a range of tests on the jet, investigators have said.

Note to self: NEVER get NEAR a China Air plane.

5 posted on 03/29/2005 5:03:32 PM PST by Henchster
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To: Paleo Conservative

I would imagine most tail strikes happen in Asia.


6 posted on 03/29/2005 5:04:28 PM PST by cmsgop ( Don't Forget to check out Bea Arthur in the "Menopause Monologues"  coming on NBC this fall)
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To: Beelzebubba

7 posted on 03/29/2005 5:07:05 PM PST by Wiz
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To: Wiz; Beelzebubba
LOL!
8 posted on 03/29/2005 5:08:35 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative
The cracks in the plane's tail section might have developed when the Boeing 747-200's tail hit the runway while taking off

I'm no expert but I bet tails aren't meant to hit the runway during takeoff with any frequency.

9 posted on 03/29/2005 5:30:52 PM PST by Larry Lucido (We miss ya, Indie! Law Enforcement Against Prohibition - http://www.leap.cc)
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To: Wiz

Absolutely wonderful! LOL!


10 posted on 03/29/2005 5:52:45 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Larry Lucido

And during landing too. . .not a good thing.


11 posted on 03/29/2005 6:06:13 PM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: Beelzebubba

Airliners.net apparently does not allow external linking.

One would have to download the photo then store it on the net somewhere in order to display it here.

I saw the airbus tail strike at that site. Pretty impressive with the flame or sparks or whatever that is.


12 posted on 03/29/2005 6:20:03 PM PST by El Gran Salseron ( The equal opportunity male chauvinist pig. :-))
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To: Henchster
I have flown them.

I guess I lucked out.

13 posted on 03/29/2005 6:21:03 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing!? Oh right, that would be me. Back to work.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Workers fixed the spot near the rear cargo door with an aluminum patch, or a "doubler," the report said.

But before the patch was applied, workers did not properly sand away scratches on the plane's skin, and the doubler did not extend sufficiently beyond the damaged area to restore the structural strength, the report said.

Still lasted 22 years before failure. Go Boeing.

14 posted on 03/29/2005 6:39:53 PM PST by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail the Evil War Monkey King, Chimpus Khan!])
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Still lasted 22 years before failure. Go Boeing.

I bet the relatives of the 225 people who died on that flight might not be so enthusiastic. Follow the links in post #3.

15 posted on 03/29/2005 6:44:19 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Larry Lucido
I don't know about China airlines, but while I was at Boeing, the company was plenty irritated at both Japan Airlines pilots and Air France pilots taking delivery of new planes from the factory runway.

They preferred to have Boeing pilots deliver the new planes so that any accidents would happen on foreign turf instead of right in front of the factory.

16 posted on 03/29/2005 7:00:09 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
I guess you did:


17 posted on 03/29/2005 7:23:05 PM PST by Henchster
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To: Henchster
China Airlines, which has one of the industry's worst safety records, said in a statement that since much of the wreckage wasn't recovered,

Workers recovered the four engines and 1,500 other pieces, or 75 percent,

I guess it depends on your definition of "much". Mine would differ from that of China Airlines.

18 posted on 03/29/2005 7:26:18 PM PST by PAR35
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To: nightdriver
I don't blame Boeing for have this practice of having their own pilots delivering the NEW PLANES to their costumers.
19 posted on 03/29/2005 7:26:20 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: El Gran Salseron
Airliners.net apparently does not allow external linking.

One would have to download the photo then store it on the net somewhere in order to display it here.

I wouldn't do that. Airliners.net and its photographers are fiercely protective of their photographs. Doing so would only get you a nasty letter from the photographer with demands for money for using his photograph.

Best thing to do is just link to it.

20 posted on 03/29/2005 7:30:16 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Believing in Internet Polls is Like Believing in the Tooth Fairy)
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