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SOMETHING OMINOUS THIS WAY COMES - Russia's aggressive campaign against U.S. citizens
JRNyquist.com ^ | 2/21/05 | Richard Roberts

Posted on 03/29/2005 2:50:05 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

To paraphrase Ray Bradbury, something most ominous this way comes, and frankly I’m worried. Not since Russia tried to put missiles in Cuba have I seen an international crisis as potentially dangerous to America. World Communism has pushed a big pile of chips onto the table of the Great Game, and neither the mainstream media nor conservative commentators have caught the significance of what has happened.

However, if one views political science like a jigsaw puzzle, then when a significant piece falls into place, it is relatively easy to see the Big Picture, in this case the Baran-Wallerstein theory (B-W), which I have been warning about for some three years. To recap: Communism never gave up its goal of world conquest; however, the fat-cat “workers of the world” of the industrialized nations now have no interest in revolution. They’ve got it made. But Communism’s goal remains the same, the destruction of capitalistic America: Deemed by B-W an “Eminent Evil,” and the cause of Third World “immiseration.” Fortuitously, the means to the end of destroying America appeared in the form of Islamic jihad. Thus, Communist nations like Russia, North Korea and China are doing all they can to enable terrorists by training and surreptitious weapons supply. For example, missiles found in Libya were manufactured in North Korea, and Russia has—or promises to—provide Syria with ground-to-air missiles. As for Kerry’s so-called allies, Socialist nations like France and Germany (along with Russia and China), armed Saddam and opposed removing him by force. In effect, they were all bribed by Saddam through the U.N’s elaborate scam, Oil-for-Food.

The new piece of the Baran-Wallerstein puzzle that fell into place last week was the alliance of Syria and Iran. Syria’s premier, Assad, is of course Saddam’s Baathist cousin. I reported that just days before the Iraq invasion, convoys of trucks were detected by satellite moving into Syria from the border town of al-Qaim. Undoubtedly these were WMDs going west. [UPDATE: On 3/13/05 The N.Y.Times basically confirmed that Saddam Hussein possessed "stockpiles of monitored chemicals and materials," as well as sophisticated equipment to manufacture nuclear and biological weapons, which were removed to "a neighboring state" before the U.S. could secure the weapons sites.] Assad already had a substantial arsenal of chemical and biological weapons, but now he also has Saddam’s weapons, and will not hesitate to use them if Iran is attacked by Israel to take out Iran’s nuclear capability, just as Israel had done in Iraq. The U.S. probably would respond by attacking Syria, which would probably cause Russia to enter the war against us. After all, why would Russia give Syria ground-to-air missiles if not to attack Israeli or American planes?!

I also reported that Russian special-ops teams were in Iraq advising Saddam on defenses up to hours before the invasion. Indeed, this was confirmed when Iran awarded medals to two Russian generals for their services who, when queried, replied that they had not gone to Iraq “for a cup of coffee.” Now another ominous piece of the Big Picture fell into place this week when Putin declared, “The latest steps taken by Iran have convinced us that Iran does not intend to produce nuclear arms.” He added that Russia would continue to supply Iran with nuclear technology and weapons! And because most media people are not cognizant of the Baran-Wallerstein Big Picture, the significance of Putin’s words were utterly lost on them, and thus to the American public.

The significance of Putin’s statement as an indication of Russian policy is proof positive of B-W: The Iranian part of the “Axis-of-Evil” will not only be nuclear-enabled by Russia, but also defended. Once again, as in the Carter-North Korean nuke fiasco, an American president is being asked to trust a Communist’s word that Iran will not build nuclear weapons. I say thank God for Bush. Had Kerry been elected, he undoubtedly would have been led down that primrose path again. Moreover, a new Pentagon report cited in U.S. News & World Report (2/21/05), reveals that hundreds of American soldiers from WWII and the Korean War were imprisoned in Soviet forced-labor camps where they eventually died. In the report is testimony of a woman who “said that in the 1950s, her father was in a Siberian gulag with an American named Stanley Warner,” who in fact was a Michigan Navy reservist listed as missing in WWII.

Back in March of 2004, hosting a visit by Iranian President Mohammad Khatami President Putin reaffirmed that Russia would pursue new arms sales to Iran and complete construction of a nuclear power plant at Bushehr. Then, early last November, the Kremlin notified the United States that on December 1 Russia would withdraw from a June 1995 agreement to end arms sales to Iran. Russia had not strictly adhered to the agreement, selling an estimated $200 million in weapons to Iran between 1996 and 1999.

So, even then, the seeds were being sown to disrupt peace in the Middle-East. Putin, who met at the Kremlin with Iran's security chief Hasan Rowhani on Friday, said he would visit Iran soon, Interfax reported.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
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To: harrowup

...or their proclivity to marry crazy women.


41 posted on 03/29/2005 7:49:55 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Jaysun

Certainly, FDR, having gone for some Fabian Socialist programs in order to attempt doing something about the Great Depression without actually truly purging all the bad debt and somehow remaining inefficient firms and individual estates, must have had a soft spot for Marxism / Stalin. I doubt he would have ultimately OK'd Communist world domination, but certainly, he was no Goldwater either! He probably figured, like many Western European socialists, that putting socialism lite in place might somehow lessen the Communists desire to overthrow the West and capitalism. He clearly lacked the courage to truly lead by example and through our own actions, essentially say, "we are as far from Communism as one can be."


42 posted on 03/29/2005 7:50:42 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: harrowup; Jaysun

To harrowup: Now wait a minute here. Would prosecuting a just war against Communists who planned world domination, and had just conquered half of Europe, required, as per your own hyperbole "nuking half the world's population?" I think not. As of the late 40s, WE WERE THE ONLY NATION WITH THE BOMB. Don't you get it? We would not have had to use it very much! I think you have revealed yourself here as one of the very active discreditors of the Clausewitzian view, and as one of the wrong headed utopians who led us into the UN charade, who so poorly advised the US during the late 1940s! Your type is still around? Even after 9/11? For shame!


43 posted on 03/29/2005 7:56:21 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Godebert

Looks like we've got one of 'em Foggy Bottom types (or one of their supporters) right here. Either that or a plain old mole who is quite unlike most FReepers.


44 posted on 03/29/2005 7:58:36 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Considering our discussion over on that other thread regarding problems in the DoS, check out the posts in the 40s on this thread.... fascinating!


45 posted on 03/29/2005 8:05:50 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Correction, starting post number 31 ...


46 posted on 03/29/2005 8:07:56 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD

Careful with the accusations.


47 posted on 03/29/2005 8:10:38 PM PST by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: jeremiah

I am personally quite concerned about our perimeter air defenses. I think we might be semi OK in response to any one threat, but, imagine a combined laydown - bombers, SLBMs, cruise missiles and ICBMs. Heck, even take away the ICBMs. Complicate things further by putting into play Russian and Chinese bombers (including possible TBD Tu-95s and Tu-22Ms they've be chatting with the Russians about) taking off from Venezuela and perhaps other points south. Could we deal with a saturation attack agaisnt CONUS?


48 posted on 03/29/2005 8:12:22 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: harrowup

Hey bub, you came in and started out on the ad hominem against me. Can't take the heat?


49 posted on 03/29/2005 8:13:01 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: harrowup

And it is also interesting to note, that the following points I've raised thus far which have gone unanswered by you:

Where did I mention global conquest?

Was the denazification of Germany global conquest?

Was the democratization of Japan global conquest?

What is it about de communization in a similar manner that has always been some sort of "no go" in the minds of appeasers, utopians and other diplomacy wonks? It's a mystery to me.

Would prosecuting a just war against Communists who planned world domination, and had just conquered half of Europe, required, as per your own hyperbole "nuking half the world's population?" I think not.

As of the late 40s, WE WERE THE ONLY NATION WITH THE BOMB. Don't you get it? We would not have had to use it very much!


50 posted on 03/29/2005 8:18:44 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GOP_1900AD

Calm down.


51 posted on 03/29/2005 8:21:08 PM PST by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: harrowup

Respond to the points.


52 posted on 03/29/2005 8:32:08 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Oh, well. Let's do more business with our dear good friend, China. After all, what are our freedoms compared with the chance to buy cheap trinkets at Wally World? (/bitter sarcasm)


53 posted on 03/29/2005 8:33:58 PM PST by neutrino (Globalization “is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.” (173))
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To: GOP_1900AD
I think not. As of the late 40s, WE WERE THE ONLY NATION WITH THE BOMB. Don't you get it? We would not have had to use it very much!

I have to agree. It only took two to convince the Japs. It wouldn't have been necessary to leave a smoking hole where all of Russia used to be to gain the upper hand. Hell, one bomb on Moscow probably would have done the trick.
54 posted on 03/29/2005 9:29:59 PM PST by Jaysun (I must warn you, I am a black belt in bullshitsu)
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To: GOP_1900AD

Stop yelling.


55 posted on 03/30/2005 5:18:24 AM PST by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Jeremiah Jr

They can hold whatever Chinese fire drills they want, but they are still 50 years behind us in Military technology, tactics, and most importantly how many combat vets they have in their military.


56 posted on 03/30/2005 5:57:56 AM PST by Waterleak (I pity the fool)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

I suppose you mean... Macbeth?

Aahhhhh! Hot potato, off his drawers, pluck to make amends. Owwwwww, oh, oww..,


57 posted on 03/30/2005 6:05:56 AM PST by Jonah Hex (Go. Hunt. Kill Skuls.)
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To: harrowup
Global conquest has not ever been a goal of the United States and I hope we can reconvince the world that is still true. The jury is out.

If a democracy is conquered by another democracy, can you tell?
58 posted on 03/30/2005 6:22:26 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: harrowup

Respond to the points. Why are you evading them?


59 posted on 03/30/2005 7:23:31 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: All

I found out something quite interesting. This harrowup is a Democrat, liberal, who has somehow managed to not get banned over the years (here since 1998!). That helps to put his or her POV into a bit more perspective. The POV is about what I'd expect from a lib. Let's hope the management know what they are doing in allowing him or her to continue here.


60 posted on 03/30/2005 9:25:58 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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