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To: CyberAnt
JEB COULDN'T - THERE WAS A COURT ORDER FROM JUDGE GREER STOPPING HIM.

Judge Greer does not have the authority to order an Executive Branch official not to enforce the law. There is a long-extant law in Florida giving the DCF the right to intervene in these cases on an emergency basis, with court review coming after the fact. The way the law reads, the DCF could have taken Terri to the hospital on Thursday, and the earliest any "court review" could have come was Tuesday.

And in case you haven't been paying attention, Jeb did send state agents to do just that. But the force he sent was so small that the "deputies" blew them off. The deputies would have beat feet if DCF had shown up with 60 or 100 national guard troops in tow.

There wasn't going to be any cop vs cop shootout. It was a poker game. The judge bluffed, and Jeb folded. And Terri dies.


201 posted on 03/29/2005 12:14:53 PM PST by Nick Danger (You can stick a fork in the Mullahs -- they're done.)
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To: Nick Danger

I don't think post 201 is factually accurate Nick. The story I read is that Greer issued an injunction against the DCF while their people were preparing to go in and take custody of Terri. When this injunction was issued, they called off this operation, and I believe if they had gone in it could easily have lead to an armed confrontation between state and local police.


305 posted on 03/29/2005 1:29:37 PM PST by carl in alaska (I am the artist formerly known as "Roger Rabbit.")
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To: Nick Danger; All

"The judge bluffed, and Jeb folded."

Okay -- I'm going to start from square one.

First of all - DCF issued an order to remove - lawmen were gathered - the order was filed with the circuit court (Judge Greer), and the circuit court had 24 hours to respond - for or against the removal order.

You're correct that DCF can do this in emergencies when they believe a child's life is in danger - and I don't think Judge Greer would stop them. But this was to remove Terri - and Judge Greer - legally - ISSUED A COURT ORDER STOPPING THE DCF FROM TAKING TERRI OUT OF THE HOSPICE. His reason - the DCF did not have sufficient evidence to support their claim for removal.

I believe DCF did - but this judge seems determined to kill this woman and nothing is going to stop him - not even common sense.

Now .. The DCF has done their job - issued the order for removal .. the circuit court has done their job (within the 24 hours required) .. and ruled against removal.

Are you trying to tell me that the Governor has the power to override that court order against DCF - when police were standing there at the hospice ready to enforce the order (and said they would) - and Jeb could just walk in there - with no authority - take over - order the police around - take Terri ..?? Done Deal!!! To believe that was possible is just nuts.

According to FL people - the police were ready to go - but did not go because the DCF told them to stand down - the court had ruled against the order to remove.

The judge wasn't bluffing - he issued a court order.

And .. Jeb didn't fold - Jeb obeyed the court order (why is that looked at as folding?).


347 posted on 03/29/2005 3:08:45 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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