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FOCUS: Bigotry and the Murder of Terri Schiavo (by survivor of attempted euthanasia)
The Harvard Crimson ^ | March 25, 2005 | Joe Ford

Posted on 03/29/2005 5:42:30 AM PST by Tirian

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To: MarMema
"Nevertheless, in some circumstances we believe that the harm of dying is sufficiently small that patients or surrogates should be allowed to voluntarily accept it to be able to donate organs. For example, some might say that if they were ever diagnosed as being permanently unconscious they would accept the harm of dying if this would make it possible for them to donate their organs to others. Similarly, some patients who are imminently dying might be willing to have their life shortened by a few minutes or hours if this would make organ donation possible."
21 posted on 03/29/2005 7:06:12 AM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: Tirian
Great essay.

we need people like Joe Ford front and center.

Following is email I sent to editor of Crimson...

"KUDOS...

This is a must read.

Hats off - and hand on heart - for Joe Ford.

We need more focus on courageous people like this. America wakes up now, or we all may have our worth for breathing decided by judges and ethic committees - and self appointed angels of death."

22 posted on 03/29/2005 7:09:37 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Tirian

Very sobering article. Thanks.


23 posted on 03/29/2005 7:15:57 AM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Tirian
I believe that the American public, to one degree or another, holds that disabled people are better off dead.

Bingo.

I often tell pro-aborts that, since they believe that some unborn children would be better off dead rather than being born with Downs Syndrome or being born into a life of poverty, they should murder all those living lives of poverty or living with Downs Syndrome.

Unfortunately, it looks like they now are.

24 posted on 03/29/2005 7:18:56 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: ravingnutter
Dr. Cranford was the doctor that Greer relied most for Terri's diagnosis: Cranford is a member of the board of directors of the Choice in Dying Society

You gotta be kidding me. Bleepin' media!

25 posted on 03/29/2005 7:20:43 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: atomicpossum
I don't have much faith in the certainty of doctors when it comes to neurological issues, particularly when they issue an absolute diagnosis.

Thanks for your story.

26 posted on 03/29/2005 7:23:25 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: zip

ping


27 posted on 03/29/2005 7:23:30 AM PST by Mrs Zip
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To: Tirian
Perhaps it is time to quietly confront people with their role in a different way.

**************

You must be an optimist. I haven't seen much in the way of a change in opinion from the "right to die" side, so I'm not terribly hopeful.

Great article-thanks for posting it.

28 posted on 03/29/2005 7:25:35 AM PST by trisham (choose life!)
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To: Tirian
Felos said in court, in 2002, that the litmus test for personhood was to be able to put a spoon to your own mouth.

Be very afraid.

29 posted on 03/29/2005 7:39:46 AM PST by Velveeta ("The litmus test is whether or not a person can bring a spoon to their mouth" G. Felos)
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To: Tirian
Well, I have learned some painful things from this horrifying event. I must tell you that I never believed before this that many people were prejudiced against the disabled. I thought most people were sympathetic and willing to be helpful when necessary. Looking back, I have witnessed situations where this was not true, but I assumed them to be rare exceptions rather than the rule.

Wow, was I ever wrong. I am 54 years old, so I have been wrong for a very long time, and I am ashamed of my naivete. The Clintons taught me some very nasty things about too many of my fellow citizens in the U.S. and even the world. This case has taught me even worse things. I have close relatives who are absolutely certain that they are good people (even far better than most) and who absolutely can't wait for Terri to die.

The Judeo-Christian ethic, so derided by the left, and by the relatives I have cited, desperately needs a revival in the country and Europe. I once read someplace that the Old Testament was the first instance in world history of a written ethic that often stood up for the little guy against power. That standing up for the weak was not a common value before then.

Nowadays, the only powerless people that the left stands up for is whatever group is fashionable at any given time. Leftist compassion is very, very selective, entirely political, and often aimed at those who don't even particularly need it.

30 posted on 03/29/2005 7:40:29 AM PST by Irene Adler
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To: G.Mason
"Gee ... he only used the dreaded Nazi word seven times. What a guy."

Nazism was discussed factually and in an entirely appropriate historical context in this article. The moral lessons of Nazism in this regard are blatantly and painfully obvious.

No one was called a Nazi in the article that I saw. You were entirely out of line to say what you said. It was a twisted recounting of the "truth" as only the lamestream press could have done. Congratulations!

31 posted on 03/29/2005 7:45:57 AM PST by Irene Adler
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To: Aquinasfan
You gotta be kidding me. Bleepin' media!

Nope...

Doctors for Michael Schiavo have said that an MRI and PET are not necessary for Terri because PVS is primarily a “clinical” diagnosis, that is, one arrived at on the basis of examination of the patient, rather than by relying on tests. And the neurologists I have spoken to agree on the clinical nature of the diagnosis, while insisting that advanced tests nonetheless are a necessary part of it. But the star medical witness for Michael Schiavo, Dr. Ronald Cranford of the University of Minnesota, has repeatedly dismissed calls for MRI testing, and his opinion has prevailed.

Dr. Cranford was the principal medical witness brought in by Schiavo and Felos to support their position that Terri was PVS. Judge Greer was obviously impressed by Cranford’s résumé: Cranford travels throughout the country testifying in cases involving PVS and brain impairment. He is widely recognized by courts as an expert in these issues, and in some circles is considered “the” expert on PVS. His clinical judgment has carried the day in many cases, so it is relevant to examine the manner in which he arrived at his judgment in Terri’s case. But before that, one needs to know a little about Cranford’s background and perspective: Dr. Ronald Cranford is one of the most outspoken advocates of the “right to die” movement and of physician-assisted suicide in the U.S. today.

In published articles, including a 1997 op-ed in the Minneapolis–St. Paul Star Tribune, he has advocated the starvation of Alzheimer’s patients. He has described PVS patients as indistinguishable from other forms of animal life. He has said that PVS patients and others with brain impairment lack personhood and should have no constitutional rights. Perusing the case literature and articles surrounding the “right to die” and PVS, one will see Dr. Cranford’s name surface again and again. In almost every case, he is the one claiming PVS, and advocating the cessation of nutrition and hydration.

National Review

When Minnesota policeman Sgt. David Mack was shot in the line of duty in 1979, Dr. Ronald Cranford diagnosed his patient as being in a "persistent vegetative state," never to regain "cognitive, sapient functioning." Dr. Cranford was ready to end his patient's life, but 20 months after the shooting, Sgt. Mack regained consciousness and nearly all of his mental ability.

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In 1989, a group of physicians published a report in the New England Journal of Medicine in which they concluded that it would be morally acceptable for doctors to give patients suicide information and a prescription for deadly drugs so they can kill themselves. Dr. Ronald Cranford, one of the authors of the report, publicly acknowledged that this is "the same as killing the patient."

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This guy is one sick puppy.

32 posted on 03/29/2005 7:47:43 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Aquinasfan
I often tell pro-aborts that, since they believe that some unborn children would be better off dead rather than being born with Downs Syndrome or being born into a life of poverty, they should murder all those living lives of poverty or living with Downs Syndrome.

A man was born in the 1800s in Germany. When he emmigrated to the US before the turn of the century, he almost was turned away because he was 4 foot 3 inches, humpbacked, and his face was swollen from an illness.

This man was Charles Proteus Steinmetz, the man who unleashed the power of alternating current and made the electrical age we live in possible, truly revolutionizing the modern world. He held over 200 patents at the time of his death.

I read his story as a child and it has stuck with me ever since. The notion that physical perfection is required for a worthwhile life is betrayed by his story, and the stories of people like Stephen Hawking, Christy Brown, John Merrick, and numerous others. More than that, who knows what greatness such adversity can breed? The eugenics movement may be destroying the very qualities that can raise the quality of human culture.

33 posted on 03/29/2005 7:48:35 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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To: Irene Adler

Well said.


34 posted on 03/29/2005 8:09:42 AM PST by green pastures
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To: Tirian

excellent idea


35 posted on 03/29/2005 8:16:46 AM PST by tioga
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To: Tirian


36 posted on 03/29/2005 8:18:53 AM PST by fishtank
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To: sportutegrl
in the absence of a living will, one must assume the person wants to be kept alive

Given what is happening to Terri Schiavo, and given the changes of definition and the broad delegation of "proxy" for decisionmaking to even a "friend", the pro-euthanasia industry has "gifted" Floridians in State Statute 765, with the legally upholdable presumption that a noncommunicative and helpless person would not want to live.

Choosing LIFE with pain or disability may now take a far stronger affirmation of intent, than choosing (or having the choice for you by hearsay or presumption) for the "peaceful beauty" of death.
37 posted on 03/29/2005 8:52:32 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: ravingnutter
Dr. Ronald Cranford was a member of the board of the former Euthanasia Society of America...

I saw this guy on Scarborough last night -he is one evil dude....

38 posted on 03/29/2005 8:52:48 AM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: atomicpossum

Q1: If you knew a woman who was pregnant, and she had 8 kids already, three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had syphilis; would you recommend that she have an abortion?

If you said yes, you just killed Beethoven.


39 posted on 03/29/2005 8:56:53 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: ravingnutter

Actually Dr Cranford (aka Dr Death) was one of two "expert witness" doctors chosen by Michael Schiavo to present his position in the 2002 appeal where Terri's condition was supposedly reevaluated by a 5 doctor panel. The other Schiavo pick being Dr Melvin ("I don't need to see the patient to make a diagnosis") Greer.
Each spent 30-45 minutes total with Terri.

The judge's personal choice and a heavy influence on his decision to deny Terri therapy and life, was a Dr Peter Bambakidis from Cleveland...who had never testifed in such a proceeding.

It would MOST interesting and curious to determine how Judge Greer came to know of and select Dr Bambakidis, who was supposed to be a neutral guardian, not affliated with either Michael or Terri's family.

To date, the only known Bambakidis tie to Pinellas county Florida is that the good doctor's brother Gust was an officer in a national Greek fraternal group to which also belonged...............George Felos, Michael's attorney.


40 posted on 03/29/2005 9:10:03 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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