THE BIG (UNTOLD) STORY IN MIDEAST [1.5 MIL MOSLEMS CHRISTIAN SINCE 911]

MERI BURLINGAME RENEWED HOPE LIST ^ | 24 FEB 2005 | JOEL C ROSENBERG

[mowkeka]

MSM bias bump.

[pizzalady]

".Which is what THE GOSPEL is about. Christ died to prove He won over the monster of sin pollution within each individual since Adam. Apart from Christ's Blood and forgiveness from accepting The Blood's application/covering; and Holy Spirit's helping us become more like Christ and leave sin's deadliness increasingly behind ..."

Thanks, you've hit the nail squarely on the head.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Things will be coming to a head personally about this but are terribly complicated by the fact my little church does not agree with these policies.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Leftists have taken over most of them for Power and they have no regard about the Word of the Lord.

[Quix]

ABSOLUTELY.

It's somewhat akin to

THE RULE OF LAW.

Chinese leaders were eager to query and ask me to speak to groups about the rule of law.

I noted that the rule of law was a great improvment over the rule of the fist, gun, corruption etc.

But, I said that it can too often be only slightly better. It can also be incredibly ruthless and deadly.

Christ noted that the law is death but The Spirit brings life.

Only hooked up to THE TRUE VINE can the branches have life and grapes for fruit.

Man perversely wants to be IN CONTROL. If we can call ourselves Christian and pretend that we have our ETERNAL LIFE E TICKET TO RIDE--while still running our own show and rowing our own boat our own directions, we tend to delude ourselves that that's wonderful.

Right off the falls to the eternal rocks below.

A number of visitors returning from Heaven or visions of Heaven have remarked at how many prostitutes there are who've made it to have routine access to the ALMIGHTY'S THRONE ROOM

. . . and how few RELIGIOUS LEADERS.

Those forgiven most, love most.

But we have to confess, repent and RECEIVE the forgivness first.

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In the course of my dissertation research, I studied the whole issue of INTRINSIC VS EXTRINSIC RELIGIOSITY. I think it was Rokeach who pioneered that research.

Lots of sociologists and other typically atheist/agnostic 'scholars' loved to assert that Christians were the most biggoted, racist, destructive etc. people on the planet and in all of history.

The research proved fascinating.

Various labels can be used but the most consistently identified in the literature is probably INTRINSIC VS EXTRINSIC.

Others used are:

Internal/External
Authentic/Inauthentic

and the like.

There's also those called:

INDISCRIMINANTLY PRO-RELIGIOUS

VS

INDISCRIMINANTLY ANTI-RELIGIOUS.

Extensive amounts of high quality studies have been done. The results are always consistent.

There are those who put their RELIGION on like a coat for Sunday and quickly toss the coat for Monday abuse of workers and customers.

There are those who earnestly work to practice their faith in every area of their lives authentically, persistently.

So, let's consider 3 groups--the:

1) INDISCRIMINANTLY PRO-RELIGIOUS

2) INDISCRIMINANTLY ANTI-RELIGIOUS

3) AUTHENTICALLY SPIRITUAL.

Which group would consistently come out as

MOST RACIST, BIGGOTED, HARSH, ABUSIVE, DESTRUCTIVE, VIOLENT ETC?

WHICH GROUP WOULD BE 2ND MOST THOSE EVIL DEADLY THINGS?

WHICH GROUP WOULD BE LEAST?

A) The INDISCRIMINANTLY ANTI-RELIGIOUS

WERE BY FAR THE MOST BIGGOTED, RACIST, HARSH, ABUSIVE, DESTRUCTIVE, VIOLENT etc.

B) NEXT BUT A SIGNIFICANTLY LESS AMOUNT WERE THE INDISCRIMINANTLY PRO-RELIGIOUS.

C) LEAST SO--BY A VERY WIDE MARGIN--I THINK AT LEAST A STANDARD DEVIATION'S WORTH OF SPACE LESS SO--WERE THE AUTHENTICALLY SPIRITUAL.

Mr Dollar would do well to examine the research. Perhaps more importantly, he would do well to examine his own heart and insure it's in proper order and relationship to God and others in all respects.

[Quix]

Thanks. Quite so.

And something the puppet masters are loathe to be known or believed.

[myprecious]

Pray, send, and go. It is the Great Commission for all believers.

[Quix]

You're humbling me warmly to tears.

Thanks much.

You might appreciate the research I touched on just above.

[Quix]

Committees of turf building, insecure, arrogant, flawed, flesh-focused humans

do not lead anything well

and religious groups least well.

imho

I think when Christ starts cleaning up THE CHURCH more comprehensively and intensely--it won't be just the money changers tables that are overturned--the whole outfit will be overturned and turned inside out as well as upside down.

ALL THAT CAN BE SHAKEN, WILL BE SHAKEN.

ONLY THAT BUILT ON HIM--THE ONLY SOLID ROCK, WILL STAND.

The chaff will be burned and blown away.

[Quix]

Absolutely correct.

That's a big reason why

IN CHINA

[and reportedly in

HOMELAND SECURITY they are registered as part of groups to be watched extra closely]

THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN THE 2ND COMING OF JESUS--particularly as in our era

such persons are at least suspect if not proscribed, and at least scheduled to be sentenced, abused, executed.

Satan will insist that he is god and demand worship accordingly. The puppet masters are busy moving in that direction with the MSM; universities--long time since Harvard was a solid Christ-centered Bible College; movies; political stands; etc.

GOD ALONE IS OUR HIGH TOWER. The new Christians in China and Moslem cultures know immediately what the stakes are--LIFE AND DEATH; ETERNAL LIFE AND ETERNAL DEATH. They are much more realistic about such things than we are.

They know what hopelessness is. They are much quicker to seize TRUE HOPE for everything that HE IS.

[myprecious]

I'm gonna look into the SAMARITAN'S PURSE in the web and donate to this worthy cause!

They were one of the first to set up aid for the tsunami. They set up hospitals and feed thousands.

They were one of the first to land in Afghanistan after the shooting eased. They had thousands of shoeboxes of Christmas gifts to give to children.

The Shoebox mission reaches children all across the globe. You pack a shoe box for a boy or girl within 3 age ranges. Our family has send boxes for 3 years now. What a fun family mission! I think of my little girl every time I use my umbrella that matches the one I sent her this year. I just pray that one day I will see her and her family in heaven.

[Quix]

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

Please pray, that God will continue to affirm that I can return to my univ in Taipei and teach there by fall classes. And that He will take my Alzheimer's mother home to be with Him ASAP.

[Quix]

Love your umbrella story. Great prayer reminder.

Hugs all around.

[myprecious]

You and your mother are in my prayers. Just don't forget the good work you do here online. You are salt and light!

[Quix]

Thanks much for your kind words.

God has been trying to get that through my head, it seems.

But it's such a drop in the bucket, to me.

And I just love loving Chinese folks, especially students, into His Kingdom.

HIS BEST to you and yours in your lives and ministries, too.

Thanks enormously.

[jb6]

Today there are more than 15,000 Kazakh Christians, and more than 100,000 Christians of all ethnicities.

One third of the Kazakh population is Orthodox Christian and about 15% are Lutherns. Do they not count?

[Natural Law]

The fact that Islam is the fastest growing faith today is based upon the extraordinary birth rates imposed on its women. Christianity is the fastest growing faith based upon personal choice.

[Quix]

THANKS!

YEA GOD!

[Quix]

I believe that to be quite true--even in So America.

And, the new converts to an authentic RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS vs religionists

are eager for NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIANITY including such as Acts 2. They are tired to death with

DEAD RELIGION.

They see enough evil up close--including demonized stuff galore. They want a God who can deal with the traumas of life including the demons--real and imagined.

Those in the most nitty gritty of life situations don't have much patience with philosophies from CEMETARIES (seminaries) and insist on a God with REAL POWER. Thankfully, Jesus does not disappoint.

[DollarCoins]

"All who claim the Name of Christ, are not His followers"

"Secular historians would like you to believe that these things were done by true Christians, but they were not."

I agree with you. The same is true for Muslims.