Only a gun could have stopped Jeff Weise (Red Lake MN school shooting)

St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 3/29/05 | Mark Yost

[brbethke]

This is the lead editorial in this morning's Pioneer Press. Will wonders never cease.

[brbethke]

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[Puppage]

This is the lead editorial in this morning's Pioneer Press. Will wonders never cease

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile.

[LibertarianInExile]

What's ironic is that Gartrell's advice came just two weeks after another professor — Robin Magee of Hamline University — took St. Paul police to task for carrying Tasers in schools. She argued that police need no more than "a stern command" to control unruly schoolchildren. Red Lake Senior High School security guard Derrick Brun tried that. His funeral was Monday.

Holy $#!#!! That is the harshest, most honest thing I've ever heard on the MSM editorial pages.

You can bet that won't make it to the NYT. But this is one hell of an acorn for them to run across, Puppage, ya gotta admit that. Ever seen one of them acorns like this? Not me. Maybe it's a good sign of the change a-comin'.

[brbethke]

Minnesota bump

[Puppage]

No, you're right. I was also amazed at the piece & wish there were more people with the guts to speak the truth. Having said that, I just don't think it'll happen.

[WorkingClassFilth]

"Robin Magee of Hamline University — took St. Paul police to task for carrying Tasers in schools. She argued that police need no more than "a stern command" to control unruly schoolchildren. Red Lake Senior High School security guard Derrick Brun tried that. His funeral was Monday."

This says it all. Unfortunately, the enormous population of leftist morons in the metro area are going to write about a million smoking-hot letters of rage to the editor of the PP for somebody daring to quote one of theirs in such an inflammatory way and distort her clear intent to help draw such conclusions - blah, blah, blah.

Well, good for the PP for printing at least one piece that makes sound sense this year - that may be the best evidence we have of changing times amongst our leftist friends.

[RKV]

Put the gun down Jeff. Now.

[Exeter]

"Robin Magee of Hamline University — took St. Paul police to task for carrying Tasers in schools. She argued that police need no more than "a stern command" to control unruly schoolchildren. Red Lake Senior High School security guard Derrick Brun tried that. His funeral was Monday."

Someone needs to remind Ms. Magee that the only thing that stopped Luke Woodham's shooting rampage of Pearl High School back on 10/1/97 was the assistant principal who ran to his car, retrieved his own pistol, and confronted the punk who promptly surrendered.

Former bounty hunter Ralph "Papa" Thorson once said the one sound that immediately gets everybody's attention is that of a pump-action 12 gauge shotgun chambering a round. IMO, that is the "stern command" that school security guards need nowadays...

[Egon]

Apparently, monkeys are flying out of my butt.

[Kimmers]

As a middle school nurse many kids are out of control and I blame the parents...here in Indiana these out of control kids are protected by "504"...a massive amount of people get together @ tax payers expense to determine that his child should get a 504 and then he can get away with any type of behavior without getting kicked out of school...we have one child that kicks, hits and threatens but nothing is done because of his "504" and the parents may bring in lawyers....I say call the cops and file police reports...I know I would not hesitate to do this

[elhombrelibre]

Does anyone know what type of firearm this kid used? I haven't seen that reported, but I haven't followed the story very closely.

[cryptical]

Does anyone know what type of firearm this kid used?

A pistol and a shotgun is what I recall reading, stolen from his grandfather.

[2nd amendment mama]

A pistol and a shotgun is what I recall reading, stolen from his grandfather.

And his grandfather (who he killed) was a cop! So, taking the guns away from law-abiding citizens wouldn't have stopped this criminal from getting guns. Remember, the leftists/socialists haven't said anything yet about disarming cops.....that will be next!

[brbethke]

The first two people he killed were his grandfather and his grandfather's female companion. His grandfather was a cop.

Then he took his grandfather's kevlar vest, duty belt, service pistol, and shotgun, and drove his grandfather's squad car to the school, where he continued his killing spree.

By the way, the kid was heavily medicated on Prozac and they'd just upped his dosage about two weeks before.

[brbethke]

Mr. Yost appears to be a voice in the urban wilderness at the Pioneer Press. His email address is myost@pioneerpress.com and given the predictable reaction from the left, he could probably use some encouraging words right about now.

[Lijahsbubbe]

And in another parallel to Columbine he listens to heavy metal music and dressed Goth.

[elhombrelibre]

Thanks, the details help explain this better. Too bad the media reports skip so much of them.

[RhoTheta]

Thanks for the ping. Are the monkeys armed? I sent the author a note:

Mark,

Thanks for the insightful article. I was pinged to its presence on the Free Republic forum. I'm sure you are going to get lots of flaming email. Mine just says "Well done!"

[sharktrager]

A gun, or the kids he told he was going to do it coming forward.