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To: chambley1

It's quite simple.
cause of death= natural causes.
Until you figure out how to make a vegetible eat her vegetables.

How many times do I have to suggest reason, and rational thinking to people?
Terri is a veg. She can't THINK, smell, feel, she has no- NONE- sense of awarness. She cant- CAN'T!- swallow food even if mushed up and placed in her mouth.

She doesn't even know she's alive. She's nothing but a corpse, kept alive by forced feeding, simply because her brainstem still funtions and keeps her heart and organs working.

Watching the news, I see the press say "she's still alive, RESPONDING TO FAMILLY MEMBERS.
What utter nonsense. She's been laying in the same position for 15 YEARS! and has responded to NOTHING.
Why? Because her brain is gone.

Now, lets review the issue. Why should terri be kept alive?
Because, her parents want to keep her alive. She left no living will to make her wishes known. All they have is a hearsay statement which the court is using to carry out her wishes.
THAT is what this is about. It isn't because this living corpse is ever going to get better, or has any sort of life, enjoys anything, or even wants to be here. I sure wouldn't.



17 posted on 03/28/2005 4:50:12 PM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: Nuzcruizer

I don't even know where to start with you.....

I hope you don't ever end up being a useless eater, especially in Florida.


20 posted on 03/28/2005 4:54:47 PM PST by Vor Lady
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To: Nuzcruizer
Terri is a veg. She can't THINK, smell, feel, she has no- NONE- sense of awarness. She cant- CAN'T!- swallow food even if mushed up and placed in her mouth.

She doesn't even know she's alive. She's nothing but a corpse, kept alive by forced feeding, simply because her brainstem still funtions and keeps her heart and organs working.

And you are uniquely qualified to make these judgements how? You're a doctor who's examined her extensively? If she can't feel, why is she being given morphene?

Open wide and stick it in further. What type of spices make your foot taste better?

21 posted on 03/28/2005 4:55:23 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: Nuzcruizer

The priest who ministers to this "vegetable" that you are so contemptuous of, reports that she attempts to bow her head (despite stiff neck and we all know why that may be...) and that Terri closes her eyes when they pray together.

WHAT kind of vegetable humbles itself before God?

Her brain function in regards to spirituality actually sounds a bit higher than some posters here on FR.


23 posted on 03/28/2005 4:56:49 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Nuzcruizer
I sure wouldn't.

What you would want is immaterial to Terri.

24 posted on 03/28/2005 4:56:50 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: Nuzcruizer
Are you a masochist? lol
25 posted on 03/28/2005 4:56:57 PM PST by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Nuzcruizer
Until you figure out how to make a vegetible eat her vegetables.

Spoon feeding would seem a natural thing to try, were it not forbidden.

27 posted on 03/28/2005 4:57:56 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: Nuzcruizer

Here she is a few years after her "accident". I don't see her "laying in the same position". And she hardly looks like "a corpse".

This picture was taken while her "husband" was screwing around with other women. After this picture was taken he threw her into a hospice. A place people die. He threw her away like an old shoe. Once he got some cash. Cheaper place to put her. He learned well from his insane lawyer who thinks he hears the voices of people that want him to kill them by starvation.

28 posted on 03/28/2005 4:59:24 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Here come da king, er, judge!)
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To: Nuzcruizer
And just where did you get your Medical Degree?

Terri is no more "dead" than a baby born after being oxygen deprived is dead when it cries and makes noises to be fed. Only she can't always make a noise and when she does, someone who profits by her death (husband, husband's attorney, Hospice) translates it to mean "kill me by starvation, it's such a painless way to die. I'm sure that's why Hitler used it in Nazi Germany."

I'll bet when you played "Life Boat" you were one of those who threw the handicapped woman overboard first.

I feel sorry for everyone who thinks that life is expendable just because the person living it is handicapped in some way. So what if she lived another 15 years. Michael got enough money to take care of her for an additional 41 years after the injury. He reneged on his promise to care for her.

He's a self-absorbed sadistic control freak.

But, since you're such a progressive thinker, you probably missed that nuance in the case.

36 posted on 03/28/2005 5:06:13 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (SAVE TERRI SCHIAVO'S LIFE -- send in the Guard or Marshals. Let's Roll!)
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To: Nuzcruizer
It isn't because this living corpse is ever going to get better, or has any sort of life, enjoys anything, or even wants to be here. I sure wouldn't.

I think, in the interest of kindness, we should all print this out and make sure it's available should Nuzcruizer have an accident - or get old and incapacitated.

I would want to sure he/she-it's wishes were carried out. Maybe we could all get permission to pull the plug together

40 posted on 03/28/2005 5:09:27 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Nuzcruizer
She cant- CAN'T!- swallow food even if mushed up and placed in her mouth.

Hmmm, is that a fact? According to several nurses who took care of her and who swore in different affidavits, she can swallow. They fed her jello and a few other things and she swallowed it. They did that until the lovable husband told them to stop.

Also, a couple of doctors pointed out that the human body produces several pints of saliva and sinus drainage. That liquid would have choked her if she didn't swallow it or spit it out. And she did not have an aspirator to remove the liquid.

How many other half truths are there about this ladies' medical condition?????

43 posted on 03/28/2005 5:13:58 PM PST by eeriegeno
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To: Nuzcruizer

Wow, when did you examine her so that you could give us your expert diagnosis?
susie


48 posted on 03/28/2005 5:19:08 PM PST by brytlea
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To: Nuzcruizer
Wow! You sure know a lot about this. So, you've been down there to see and visit with her, huh?...I wish I could've done that. You really are knowledgable and informed, moreso than most people.....How'd you get in to see her?

FMCDH(BITS)

75 posted on 03/28/2005 5:45:36 PM PST by nothingnew (Why do all CHARLITE posts end up in "bloggers/personal"?)
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To: Nuzcruizer
Terri is a veg. She can't THINK, smell, feel, she has no- NONE- sense of awarness. She cant- CAN'T!- swallow food even if mushed up and placed in her mouth.

She doesn't even know she's alive. She's nothing but a corpse, kept alive by forced feeding, simply because her brainstem still funtions and keeps her heart and organs working.

(Cut and pasted - not my typo's)

How can you make such definitive statements? You must be an expert on the subject of PVS. There are a few experts who have filed affidavits that contradict your statements.

Surely you don't believe everything you see and hear on TV without trying to apply some sort of logic. She was denied rehabilitation to teach her how to swallow - or does that not fit you "logic" so you dismiss it?

80 posted on 03/28/2005 6:01:44 PM PST by Shadrak (Science has a long way to go!)
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To: Nuzcruizer

Then how does she swallow her saliva?


90 posted on 03/28/2005 6:18:09 PM PST by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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To: Nuzcruizer
Just so we're all clear, and I'll use short words so you get it, this isn't about what you want.

What you want has nothing to do with it.

What Terri wants has everything to do with it, and - here's where it gets tricky - we don't know what she wants.

That seems to a rational person reason enough not to kill her.
92 posted on 03/28/2005 6:19:54 PM PST by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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To: Nuzcruizer
Until you figure out how to make a vegetible eat her vegetables

Disgusting statement.

She cant- CAN'T!- swallow food even if mushed up and placed in her mouth.

Terri was drinking by mouth and was eating soft foods before her "husband" stopped all rehabilitation. Which coincided with the malpractice settlement.

98 posted on 03/28/2005 6:35:54 PM PST by AirForceMom (I am ashamed of the moral pollution upon America. The Red Zone)
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To: Nuzcruizer
Hospices are supposed to be places for people who have a life-expectancy of 6 months or less. While on the feeding tubes, Terri has lived in the same hospice for 15 years. Within weeks of the removal of the feeding tubes, she will die.

If everythng you say is true, then why has it been only in the past 10+ days that her body is near-death? All of her bodily functions were working fine before the judicial system decided that she's "nothing but a corpse."

101 posted on 03/28/2005 6:46:23 PM PST by Prov3456
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To: Nuzcruizer
I think a lot of people misunderstand why some are against this particular case.I am not against ending the life of a person who is suffering or who made their wishes clear that they didn't want to live.I view this case different because of the questionable conduct and motivations of the husband.If Terri had written a will or if the husband didn't wait ten years to claim her wishes only after receiving $1.7 million in a settlement my view would be different.We don't have to rubber stamp every right to die case just because we believe that people have the right to die.If there are suspicious circumstances or questionable motives people have a right to disagree with the decision.
120 posted on 03/28/2005 7:22:43 PM PST by rdcorso (In America Criminals Have More Rights Than The Disabled.What A Disgrace)
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To: Nuzcruizer

"She cant- CAN'T!- swallow food even if mushed up and placed in her mouth. "


It is so tiring to see ignorant, uninformed misfits making fools of themselves.

Why don't you try to become informed about a subject before you post something ridiculous again?

Here's a start for you....

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player.html?032205/pol_schiavonurse_032205&FOX_Friends&FOX%20News%20Exclusive&acc&Politics&-1&wvx-300


140 posted on 03/28/2005 7:52:19 PM PST by Proud Conservative2 (Gun control means being able to hit your target...)
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To: Nuzcruizer
I don't believe you know for sure what you are writing about.

I don't think the doctors know for sure.

Why give morphine to dull Terri's senses and pain if she was just a 'living corpse'?

Why is Felos talking today about music playing in her room, if she is just a living corpse?

Makes me believe that until all medical professionals that have examined Terri agree, no one knows for sure.

In the meantime, the rush to starve this otherwise healthy woman which will cause her to die a most heinous death before her time is not in my opinion, natural causes.

142 posted on 03/28/2005 7:59:13 PM PST by harpo11 ( Terri's our Sister, She Ain't Heavy!)
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