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Follow the Constitution Gov. Bush: Grant Clemency to Terri Schiavo
Empire Journal | March 28, 2005 | Anon

Posted on 03/28/2005 1:12:25 PM PST by TBP

Since I'm only allowed to post a link, here it is.

http://www.theempirejournal.com/0328051_follow_the_constitution.htm

This is a really good article on one of Jeb's reamining options to help Terri, which he refuses to take.

The article urges him to launch an immedite criminal investigation into the whole case, then take her into custody as part of the investigation, then grant her clemency, thus putting her out of reach.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; jeb; jebbush; jebwasheshishands; pontiuspilate; saveterri; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; zork
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To: Jim 0216
You guys are joking, right? You're for a constitutional republic, right? That's what we should be fighting for.

Of course we're joking. I'm in favor of limited government, period. However, it seems that a large group of Freepers these days actually agree with my tagline.

81 posted on 03/28/2005 2:28:34 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: Javelina

Well, you could always bust on Ward Churchill instead with your tagline and call him the Great White CU Buffalo...


83 posted on 03/28/2005 2:34:20 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: TBP

Give it up. Gov Bush is not a hero, and he doesn't play one on TV.


84 posted on 03/28/2005 2:34:44 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: concerned about politics

[Clinton violated a court order because of his support for Fidel Castro and communism.
Bush should do the same on the grounds that Terri's right to representatrion and right to life have been violated.
Which one do you think sounds Constitutional?]


Neither one.


85 posted on 03/28/2005 2:46:22 PM PST by spinestein
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To: Clara Lou

Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark. :^)


87 posted on 03/28/2005 2:52:09 PM PST by spinestein
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To: AnotherOldMan
So according to you, not enforcing federal laws is not an abuse of power.

So, then, if a cop catches you speeding and decides to not give you a ticket, that's an abuse of power on his part?

You cleverly ignored my comments on the illegal immigration issue.

I've ripped Bush countless times on that.

Keep working on it and you will soon be a perfect suck up for bush.

Keep putting words in my mouth and see what it does to your credibility.

88 posted on 03/28/2005 2:52:21 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: TBP

Why not use Executive Power and rescue her physically?


89 posted on 03/28/2005 2:54:58 PM PST by Dubya_4ever_USA
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To: CyberAnt

[People want the Bush brothers to OPERATE OUTSIDE THE LAW - they are not going to do it. They just placed their hand on a Bible and SWORE to uphold the law. Your requirements are invalid.]





Well said.


90 posted on 03/28/2005 2:57:02 PM PST by spinestein
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To: Jim 0216

PSSST. It's satire.


91 posted on 03/28/2005 2:59:43 PM PST by spinestein
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To: CyberAnt
In order to open a criminal investigation - you have to have substantiated evidence of a CRIME BEING COMMITTED. While there are a lot of suspicions - that is unfortunately not substantiated evidence.

We have affidavits from at least three nurses about Michael's brutal treatment of Terri, and one nurse who found a vial of insulin (which would kill her) and went to the police. There are the bone scans showing broken bones.

There is other evidence as well.

93 posted on 03/28/2005 3:06:17 PM PST by TBP
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To: AnotherOldMan
Selected law enforcement is an abuse of power.

I'll be sure to demand a ticket the next time I'm pulled over, then, lest I be party to an abuse of power.

94 posted on 03/28/2005 3:07:27 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: TBP

Judgenfuhrer Greer: "It is almost the end of the day of March 28th.
This proves that any subpoena from the inept weak pussy US Congress
is not even worth a bucket of warm spit around here.
18 USC Section 1505 - we urinate on it. Title 2 of the US code, we deficate on it."

95 posted on 03/28/2005 3:28:48 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: TBP
I agree with the Empire Journal that clemency is indeed an option.

However, the way that I think is the most inarguable is to do this:

  1. Like President Ford's clemency of President Nixon, it needs to be blanket.
  2. However, it should not be one pardoning her of any crimes and voiding her of a death sentence; instead, it should be clemency restoring Mrs. Schiavo's civil right to life (one of the enumerated powers in the state Governor's clemency powers.)

The first finesses the lack of any conviction, just as it did in the Nixon case. The second again avoids the lack of any sentence, since the intent of the clemency order would not be to void any sentence, but just to restore her right to life.

96 posted on 03/28/2005 3:38:17 PM PST by snowsislander (Isa41:17-When the poor and needy seek water,and there is none,and their tongue faileth for thirst...)
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To: TBP

So .. if you think there is other evidence - who is to blame for not bringing a criminal complaint against the husband .. President Bush - Gov Bush ..??

Those are the only 2 names I hear being thrown around - and neither of them has any control over bringing a criminal complaint. Like I said before - after DCF tried to launch 2 separate criminal complaints against the husband - the Attorney General's office SHUT THEM DOWN.

So .. the people in the state charged with starting an investigation have basically flipped the people of FL off.

So .. this little exercise appears to be a BASH the Bush brothers .. and I'm just sick of it .. because it's not even relevant to the case.


97 posted on 03/28/2005 4:13:01 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: TBP
New law of the land:

"Legal Murder"

Letter I sent to Gonzales, who refuses requests by White House and Congress. I understand they are furious with him - if he thinks this will protect his bid for a June appointment to the SCOTUS - and be able to avoid filibuster - I beleive he wont have to worry about any filibuster because I don't think "W" will even put him up.

My letter to Gonzo:

Alberto Gonzales, U. S. A. T.

Dear sir:

You are allowing a precedent of LEGAL MURDER to become the law of the land.

Help me to understand.

? - your allowing the murder of Terri Shiva will NOT protect you ambitions for SCOTUS - it will sink it. People are slowly - but surely - beginning to understand where the hangup is.

The only "evidence" that this woman didn't want to be kept alive this way is the questionable word of a conflicted, abusive husband-in-name-only and his own brother/sister in law.

Others have testified she said the opposite when remarking on someone on life support (which she is Not - except by a law they conveniently passed to put a feeding tube on the 'artificial means" list, the better to murder her with) - by saying she tought it was wrong to 'pull the plug' saying "Where there is Life there is Hope." (Terri) Why is this being ingored?

This one dubious hearsay statement by her adulterous husband, someone who has several self-serving reasons for wanting this innocent person dead - is the ONLY word that this murder is predicated on.

What about even the fact the she has been imprisoned illegally in a Hospice - that, at the time, Felos was on the board of! - denied therapy (against the law, and even medical treatment for infections - Legal?) and all the rest that proves gross neglect of a 'guardian'. In addition, this "guardian" stands to profit from her death.

It isn't that the 'family' agrees: her blood family want, at the least, her right to be tested - to have an MRI and PET, to look into the matter of ex rays that show a pattern of abuse, etc etc.

If you allow this to finish this way, her blood is on your hands, too - and in the future, countless millions of "inconvenients" . Abortion rights was never meant to become the holocaust is has. This "legal murder" will become a genocide of the incapacitated too and you will have countless millions of deaths to think about - to think: "I could have stopped it."

Either way = this will be your legacy. Who do you see when you look in the mirror?

98 posted on 03/28/2005 4:20:46 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
"Gonzales, who refuses requests by White House and Congress"

Did I miss something?

99 posted on 03/28/2005 5:00:12 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: TBP

It's too late!

Where have you been?

Legally, it's done!


100 posted on 03/28/2005 5:01:00 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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