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Supreme Court May Not Decide Case of Death-Row Mexican
Reuters ^ | Mar 28, 2005 | James Vicini

Posted on 03/28/2005 11:59:57 AM PST by mdittmar

U.S. Supreme Court justices questioned on Monday the need to decide the case of a Mexican on Texas' death row, after President Bush said the defendant and 50 other inmates should get new hearings because they weren't told of their right to talk to Mexican officials.

During arguments, the justices appeared inclined to avoid a decision on the merits in the case of Jose Medellin, who is on death row in Texas. He was denied the right to meet a consular officer from Mexico after his arrest for murder.

A month ago, Bush decided to comply with a World Court decision and said state courts should review the 51 cases to determine whether the violation of their rights caused them any harm at trial or at sentencing.

Although Bush called for review of the cases, he then withdrew the United States from the part of the treaty that gives the World Court enforcement authority to decide future disputes involving foreign inmates.

Justice Antonin Scalia said the issue of whether Bush had authority to require new hearings and whether the Mexicans should get any relief would be decided in the state-court proceedings. "The whole thing could go away," he said.

Other justices questioned whether the court should simply dismiss Medellin's appeal on technical grounds, or whether they should grant his request to put the case on hold while it goes back to a Texas court.

Medellin, a gang member, was sentenced to death in state court for the 1993 rape and murder of two teenage girls in Houston, Texas. The brutal killings stemmed from a gang initiation.

In a decision on March 31, 2004, the World Court in The Hague said the United States should review the cases of the 51 Mexican death-row inmates, because U.S. officials failed to tell them of their right under the Vienna Convention to promptly consult consular officers after their arrests.

Under the Vienna Convention, which the United States ratified in 1969, U.S. officials must tell foreign nationals of their right to contact their consulates after their arrest and must notify the consulate of the arrest.

A U.S. appeals court agreed with Texas state arguments that it was too late for Medellin to pursue his claim of treaty violation because he did not raise the issue at his trial.

Medellin's attorney, Donald Donovan, urged the justices to hold the case open while the Texas courts consider it.

But Justice Sandra Day O'Connor called that an "unusual request" and said she could not recall the court ever doing that. She said the more likely action would be to dismiss the case on technical grounds.

Texas Solicitor General R. Ted Cruz said Bush's decision involved "significant constitutional problems." Texas has opposed review for any of the Mexicans on its death row.

But he said the constitutional issue could be reviewed by the state courts and ultimately by the Supreme Court, a possibility that Justice Anthony Kennedy also mentioned.

Justice John Paul Stevens said the state court proceedings could make the issue moot and added the court by ruling now "may engage in a lot of useless activity."

Justice Department lawyer Michael Dreeben agreed and said the merits of the dispute may never need to be reached, depending on how the state courts rule.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; morebushtreason
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1 posted on 03/28/2005 11:59:58 AM PST by mdittmar
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I guess Terry Schiavo should have been a Mexican murder and the Supreme Court might take more interest in her.


2 posted on 03/28/2005 12:02:47 PM PST by BobCNY
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To: mdittmar

Once again Fox tells Bush to kiss it and he jumps for it.


3 posted on 03/28/2005 12:08:00 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: BobCNY

or jose edellin should have been 17.


4 posted on 03/28/2005 12:08:16 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: org.whodat

If jeb ever thought about running in "08" he can write it off.


5 posted on 03/28/2005 12:10:49 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

Time to call the star chamber.


6 posted on 03/28/2005 12:18:30 PM PST by mhx
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To: BobCNY

"I guess Terry Schiavo should have been a Mexican murder and the Supreme Court might take more interest in her."

This has absolutely nothing to do with Terri Schiavo.


7 posted on 03/28/2005 12:31:08 PM PST by politicalwit (Import Poverty...Hire an Illegal Alien)
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To: mdittmar

"If jeb ever thought about running in "08" he can write it off."

Jeb Bush has indicated time and time again that he has NO interest in running for President.


8 posted on 03/28/2005 12:32:11 PM PST by politicalwit (Import Poverty...Hire an Illegal Alien)
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To: mdittmar
A month ago, Bush decided to comply with a World Court decision

What the hell??? When did this happen?

9 posted on 03/28/2005 12:33:34 PM PST by econ_grad
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Here

Well,the President based it on the 1969 Vienna Convention,not the U.N. adopted "world court",as rooters would have us believe.

10 posted on 03/28/2005 12:44:38 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

All of you are right on so far. Justice? I think not. Just dismiss a double homicide and rape of children on "technical grounds"? Who are the sickos in black robes?


11 posted on 03/28/2005 12:48:53 PM PST by Clock King
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To: mdittmar

Getting real tired of the Bush brothers continuously bowing to "courts"

Maybe we should all start wearing black robes and carrying gavels and dispensing with ludicrous legal opinions. Maybe that way we can get our country back from the Tyrants that seek to enslave us.

Either that or we'd better have another Tea party.. but instead of Tea, we need to throw the entirety of the Legislature, Executive and Judicial branch into the ocean.


12 posted on 03/28/2005 12:52:47 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: BobCNY

Nonsense. Her case has dragged on far too long and it is time to stop pretending and let her go to the Lord.


13 posted on 03/28/2005 1:00:51 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: politicalwit

Doesn't everything? Hasn't the descent into madness convinced you that nothing else matters?


14 posted on 03/28/2005 1:01:58 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Clock King
The article talks about dismissing the appeal of the death sentence on "technical grounds"; not the sentence itself. What are you talking about?
15 posted on 03/28/2005 1:04:24 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Clock King

Didn't you understand ANYTHING in the article? That is NOT what the Justices are comptemplating. It is the APPEAL which is being dismissed on a technicality. Geez, the TS madness has effected your brain it looks like.


16 posted on 03/28/2005 1:04:24 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

Law? We don need no stiinking Law.


17 posted on 03/28/2005 1:05:37 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: mdittmar

If they tried to starve him to death the liberals would scream. They would scream if someone tried to starve Charles manson to death. Creepy little sicko liberals.


18 posted on 03/28/2005 1:13:42 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Yeah, liberals killing innocent people does that to people. It makes it hard to think of all the other "important things". Only creepy sicko liberals aren't effected by the killing of the innocent in front of their parents -- parents who aren't allowed to put ice on the lips of their daughter.

Didn't you understand ANYTHING in the article? That is NOT what the Justices are comptemplating. It is the APPEAL which is being dismissed on a technicality. Geez, the TS madness has effected your brain it looks like.

19 posted on 03/28/2005 1:16:37 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: GOPJ

TS left 15 years ago and to pretend that the shell that remains is her is absurd. How many people in Florida had their life support removed yesterday and today? Dozens? More? And why have you not heard of them and joined a mob to intimidate their hospitals?

This is an everyday occurrence some Congressman said it happens thousands of times a day in this country but lets just say hundreds to be conservative. I would not condemn my worst enemy to the existence she has had to tolerate for these fifteen years. THAT is the true inhumanity.


20 posted on 03/28/2005 1:22:24 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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