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A Supreme Court Showdown for File Sharing
New York Times ^ | March 28, 2005 | Saul Hansel and Jeff Leeds

Posted on 03/28/2005 2:52:01 AM PST by infocats

Edited on 03/28/2005 3:23:38 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 03/28/2005 2:52:01 AM PST by infocats
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To: infocats

Keep in mind, if the Supreme Court sides with Hollywood, Hollywood can then turn around and sue the OS and Hardware makers for have file-trading on their software and hardware. The lawyers for Hollywood will kill the tech market.


2 posted on 03/28/2005 2:54:52 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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Is there any foreign law they can cite to hurt America here? Count on it.


3 posted on 03/28/2005 2:58:41 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

This should be interesting.


4 posted on 03/28/2005 3:08:23 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Diogenesis

Considering the internet as a whole could be considered one giant file-sharing program.


5 posted on 03/28/2005 3:09:10 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: infocats

D'oh! i'm not going to like the outcome of this one.


6 posted on 03/28/2005 3:11:38 AM PST by blackeagle
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The SC would basically have to overturn their previous ruling which held that manufacturers of VCRs were not liable for consumers who violate copyright by taping TV shows and movies.

The same logic could apply to copy machines that people use to make illegal copies of books etc.

Because of that I just don't see it happening.


7 posted on 03/28/2005 3:14:56 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: infocats
Hmmm. somehow my link to the story disappeared!

Here it is again!

8 posted on 03/28/2005 3:19:45 AM PST by infocats
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To: infocats
When posting an article, please put the link to the story in the correct place.

Place the article in the appropriate space, leaving your comments for the space below the article. Thank you.

9 posted on 03/28/2005 3:32:58 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Nick Danger

ping


10 posted on 03/28/2005 3:38:30 AM PST by The Red Zone (Florida: the sun-shame state.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Seriously, what would happen if the OS and Hardware produceres just pulled out of America and relocated somewhere else and slapped a sticker on their good saying file sharing can be harmful, would the importers then be responsible.

It just amazes me how the judicial system can continuously stifle industries.


11 posted on 03/28/2005 3:51:52 AM PST by Paulus
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It just amazes me how the judicial system can continuously stifle industries.

It's not just the judicial system, it's the Treasury Departments also, which the IRS is part of.

12 posted on 03/28/2005 3:53:45 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: infocats

The government will destroy the internet with regulations and BS. Count on it.


13 posted on 03/28/2005 3:56:48 AM PST by cp124 (The Great Wall Mart)
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OS and hardware have nothing to do with file sharing.

That would be akin to bringing a space heater into your house, the house burning down, and then suing the builder of the house.

Hollywood lawyers won't kill the tech market, they'll just change the way that files (of any type) are traded.


14 posted on 03/28/2005 4:10:06 AM PST by imfleck
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To: cp124
The government will destroy the internet with regulations and BS. Count on it.

The Internet has outgrown government control. This is recognized by Bush's reference in the debates to Internets (plural) and articles a couple months ago referring to a new DoD Internet being designed exclusively for military use. Any government that makes a concerted effort to control the Internet will ultimately fall from the response generated by those who oppose such oppression. I look for the ChiComs or the Iranian mullahs to be the first to learn this lessson.

15 posted on 03/28/2005 4:15:16 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Right. Even the name has that implication: Inter-net -- inter{connected} net{work}.

The software/hardware, conceptually, are no different than a VCR or cassette recorder.

I don't see how the SC or any court can go against the software/hardware. But, the issue will be decided more politically than rationally. Blank-media and hardware co's (IIRC) for VCRs and cassettes assess a hidden fee to purchasers. That fee goes to audio/visual developers as a payoff for their no longer complaining about illegal copying. If the SC follows the VCR/cassette fee concept, they will charge that hardware manufacturers and medium (CD/DVD disk manufacturers) be assessed a fee at each sale to pay for potential illegalities.

Of course, the SC could also rule that Orin Hatch's idea to blow up PC's that have illegal downloads be blown up.
16 posted on 03/28/2005 4:46:43 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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Truthsearcher wrote: - "The SC would basically have to overturn their previous ruling which held that manufacturers of VCRs were not liable for consumers who violate copyright by taping TV shows and movies."

That is a pretty good precedent.

I'm sure the SC could find ways around it, but they could just as easily note the precedent, make an easy decision and move on.


17 posted on 03/28/2005 4:52:03 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: infocats
The SC will shut it all down, and then everyone will be asking, "War ez all the software gone?"

lol.

[Warez and Pr0n were on the Internet long before the general public was. Warez and Pr0n filled the old BBS, which was localized community pc2pc interconnections. Regardless of what the SC tries to adjudicate or Congress tries to legislate, programmers will be a step or two ahead and have an alternative.]

SC should consider the rousing success of the U.S. Constitution: Eighteenth Amendment Eighteenth Amendment - Prohibition of Intoxicating Liquors.
18 posted on 03/28/2005 4:59:07 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: imfleck
OS and hardware have nothing to do with file sharing.

Hollywood doesn't use logic, this is the same to of mentality that gun-control groups use to try to sure gun manufacturers for the crimes committed using the guns they make.

19 posted on 03/28/2005 5:11:40 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: imfleck

same to = same type


20 posted on 03/28/2005 5:12:38 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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