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Citizenship row divides Latvia
BBC News ^ | 25 March, 2005 | Angus Roxburgh

Posted on 03/27/2005 10:41:36 PM PST by jb6

In a park in the Latvian capital Riga, a small group of protesters gathers, all Russian, some wearing paper hats inscribed with the word "Alien". Latvian police carry out a small, bureaucratic piece of harassment. With a tape, and much officiousness, they measure the distance between the demonstrators and the nearest public building, a school on the other side of the road.

The protest is two metres too close, so the police move it a little further down the path.

The protesters don't mind. They are there to object to a much greater injustice.

More than 450,000 Russians and native Russian-speakers - out of a total Latvian population of 2.3m - are classed as "non-citizens" because they have failed (or refused) to take a test in Latvian language and history, which would allow them to have citizenship.

This was local election day, and they were protesting about the fact that as "aliens", despite having lived in Latvia all their lives, they had no right to take part in the elections - whereas citizens of other EU countries could vote if they had lived there for a mere six months.

"I was born here," said one young man. "I pay the same taxes as Latvians. Yet I'm not allowed to vote for the politicians who spend those taxes."

"I'm here to protest against the government's policy of dividing society along ethnic lines," said another.

The fate of the non-citizens - who account for 20% of the entire population of Latvia - is a complex one.

Soviet migrants

When Latvia gained independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, it granted automatic citizenship to those who had lived in the first independent Latvian state - between 1918 and 1940 - but not to those who immigrated here after the war, when Latvia was occupied by the Soviet Union.

Latvia suffered hugely under Soviet rule.

Thousands were arrested and sent to Siberian labour camps, or executed, during the Stalin years.

MEP Tatjana Zdanoka uses her position to highlight the issue Later, hundreds of thousands of Russians, Belarussians and Ukrainians flooded into the republic under a deliberate policy of Russification. The Latvian language was squeezed out of official use.

Latvians were resentful citizens of the USSR. By 1991, they comprised only half of the population of their own country, while in Riga only a third were Latvian.

Even today, Russian is heard as commonly as Latvian on the streets of Riga.

But the government is determined to revive the Latvian identity. It says its policy towards Russians who immigrated here during the Soviet period is aimed not at punishing them for the sins of the Soviet regime (as some suspect) but at ensuring that they learn Latvian and integrate fully into society.

In order to naturalise, Russians must take a test in Latvian, and pass an exam about Latvian history - in which they must "correctly" answer that the country was occupied and colonised, not liberated, by the Soviet Union in 1945.

Many of the Russians at the demonstration on election day said they found that psychologically difficult. They said they wanted to integrate (and many could speak Latvian), but they found the idea of applying for citizenship humiliating.

"I lived here - same as them - and I was a citizen of the USSR," said a middle-aged woman. "They deprived me of my citizenship, and now I must apply to become one! I just won't do it."

Separate, but together

Tatjana Zdanoka is Latvia's only Russian member of the European Parliament and uses her position to publicise the position of the Russian minority.

She says her mother, who has lived in Latvia for 60 years and worked here for 45 years as a schoolteacher, has no right to vote.

"She is 83 and has bad eyes. Of course she's not capable of taking any kind of exam."

Facts about Latvia Latvia was independent from 1918 to 1939 After World War II it was a part of the USSR It regained independence in 1991 700,000 Soviet-time migrants and their children became non-citizens By the time Latvia joined the EU in 2004, this figure had dropped to around 450,000 Latvia's total population is 2,3m (including non-citizens)

Igor Vatolin, a journalist on the newspaper Chas and a Russian rights activist, said the Latvian Popular Front, which led the fight for independence at the end of the 1980s, promised citizenship to everyone living in the republic.

"But they reneged on that - even though thousands of Russians voted with them in favour of independence in the referendum of 1991," he said.

There is no ethnic strife in the streets of Latvia. The two peoples live peacefully together. But politicians on both sides, and in Russia itself, stir things up.

Moscow rarely misses a chance to complain at international meetings of Latvia's "human rights abuses", while the head of the Latvian parliament's foreign affairs committee, Aleksandrs Kirsteins, has described the non-citizens as "civilian occupiers".

He called for an agreement with the Russian government under which all the unwanted foreigners would be herded on to trains and shipped back to their "ethnic homeland" - with a brass band playing on the platform to see them off.

Latvia's two communities deserve credit for by and large ignoring such provocative statements. Despite the bitterness and insecurity on both sides, they have succeeded in forging a peaceful co-existence - somewhat separate, but together.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: aliens; bigotry; latvia; racism; russia; sameoldsameold
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To: 1rudeboy
Yup, I missed the part where Germany occupied the Baltics for 40+ years, and outlawed speaking/writing/reading in the native language, practising the native religion,

Your sarcasm points to the Soviets who actually promoted the idea of distinct ethnic republic (including language) after all they created many of them. Also Soviets persecuted also Russian religion, Latvians were quite prominent among founders of the Soviet system and among the last defenders of it.

Soviet system was a form of militant secularism which is growing stronger in the West.

81 posted on 03/28/2005 6:36:55 PM PST by A. Pole (Graham Greene: "Innocence is like a dumb leper who has lost his bell, wandering the world ...")
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Russians who can speak Latvian

Russians are as likely to speak Latvian as Anglos are to speak Creole or Esperanto. It is not a very useful skill.

82 posted on 03/28/2005 6:38:52 PM PST by A. Pole (Graham Greene: "Innocence is like a dumb leper who has lost his bell, wandering the world ...")
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To: A. Pole
Yeah, I always remember about Red Latvian Riflemen. For instance, about Mr. Edward Berzin, one of the most prominent of them, who was the founder of the Kolyma GULAG and responsible for death of many many Russians. Fortunately, none of my family members died in Kolyma Gulag. A few were sent there but died en route in Siberia. Many thanks to Latvian communist Mr. Berzin, as well as to a couple of Georgian comrades Dzhugashvili and Beria.

People who talk here about Russian occupation do not know or intentionally choose to ignore a simple fact that before so-called occupation Latvia had been a part of Russian Empire for 200 years. Russian empress Anna Ioannovna, who ruled in 1730-1740 was also a Duchess of Kurland (one of the principalities that formed present-day Latvia). After her reign Latvia was gradually incorporated into Russia according to succession laws of that time. In 1917 and later, Latvians were very active participants of the communist revolution. The mentioned Red Latvian Riflemen were Lenin's most trusted bodyguards. And after they had helped to establish the communist dictatorship in Russia, they became clean and independent and very much upset when this dictatorship decided to get them back.

I do appreciate the tragedy of Latvian and other Baltic people. But I will not accept their version of history that they were innocent victims of aggressive Russia. They were the victims of aggressive communist dictatorship that was created with their active participation, and therefore they were the victims of communism as much as other peoples of the former Russian empire were, Russians included. No more, no less.
83 posted on 03/28/2005 8:22:49 PM PST by RussianBoor
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To: jb6

"When you're born in a country you're not an illegal alien, so don't try to change the subject."

It's called payback. People (and countries) have long memories. I think it was very ingeneous of the Latvian people to come up with you can be a citizen but must speak Latvian and know Latvian history. LOL. A brilliant move. You can still live here (even though Stalin opened the spigots of migration of Russians and others into Latvia and tried to destroy Latvian culture), but you must know your bread is now buttered by being a Latvian, not a Russian in Latvia. Time to show your true colors and allegiances, Russians in Latvia.


84 posted on 03/28/2005 8:40:02 PM PST by flaglady47 (O)
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To: 1rudeboy
Yup, I missed the part where Germany occupied the Baltics for 40+ years

You might want to read a few history books. Germany did occupy a major part of Baltic states since at least 13th century. In particular, Latvian capital Riga was founded in 1201 by German bishop Albert of Buxhoeveden, a founder of the order of the Livonian Brothers of the Sword, which later merged with the famous Prussian order of the Teutonic Knights. All major cities of the Baltic region from Danzig in Poland to Tartu and Tallinn in Estonia were thoroughly German and the majority of their inhabitants were German. Of course, all of them spoke German. You can read this and much more here
85 posted on 03/28/2005 8:42:13 PM PST by RussianBoor
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To: flaglady47

What goes around comes around. Latvians are not the only ones that have long memories.


86 posted on 03/28/2005 8:51:38 PM PST by RussianBoor
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To: Tailgunner Joe

It sounds very reasonable indeed except one little thing: almost everybody there by 1991 were citizens of the USSR. However, some of the former Soviet citizens living in Latvia were given the citizenship without any tests and some of them were not.


87 posted on 03/28/2005 8:55:45 PM PST by RussianBoor
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To: 1rudeboy
That's all the Soviets were ever good for . . . exterminating men, women, and children, including their own. Small wonder you borscht-eating cretins howl "Nazi" every time some country 1/1000 the size of yours actually attempts to act in its own interest, it's like you suffer from a geopolitical version of penis-envy.

I guess the concept of the Cold War being over never dawned on you. Do you still call the Germans Nazis or the Italians Fascists? How about those Spainish Fascists? Or those Austro-Hungarian Imperialists?

88 posted on 03/28/2005 9:28:26 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

People who talk here about Russian occupation do not know or intentionally choose to ignore a simple fact that before so-called occupation Latvia had been a part of Russian Empire for 200 years. Russian empress Anna Ioannovna, who ruled in 1730-1740 was also a Duchess of Kurland (one of the principalities that formed present-day Latvia). After her reign Latvia was gradually incorporated into Russia according to succession laws of that time. In 1917 and later, Latvians were very active participants of the communist revolution. The mentioned Red Latvian Riflemen were Lenin's most trusted bodyguards. And after they had helped to establish the communist dictatorship in Russia, they became clean and independent and very much upset when this dictatorship decided to get them back.


89 posted on 03/28/2005 9:31:06 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: RussianBoor

The best part is that the Prussians aren't Prussian but Teutonic Knights who exterminated the pagan Prussians in a Crusade and then after taking their land even took their name.


90 posted on 03/28/2005 9:32:34 PM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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To: A. Pole

Is this possible for anyone to become US citizen If he/she doesn't know English ?


91 posted on 03/29/2005 1:29:59 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Lewite

"Thankfully these slime bags will pay one day!"

What ? Could you explain ?


92 posted on 03/29/2005 1:30:49 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: jb6
I guess the concept of the Cold War being over never dawned on you.

The Cold War is not over as long as there are comrades of yours in Russia fantasizing about the "near abroad." Your implication that the former captive nations needn't worry themselves because it is "over" is laughable on its face.

93 posted on 03/29/2005 4:56:22 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Grzegorz 246
Is this possible for anyone to become US citizen If he/she doesn't know English ?

Many of these Russians were born their and meny lived for generations. In Poland before the WWIII war, many Jews, Ukrainians and Germans did not speak Polish. Yet Poles after gaining independence were so petty as to deprive these ethnic groups of rights or deport them.

But I am sure if the situations were reversed you would be the first to condemn Russians.

94 posted on 03/29/2005 5:15:34 AM PST by A. Pole (Graham Greene: "Innocence is like a dumb leper who has lost his bell, wandering the world ...")
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To: flaglady47; Grzegorz 246; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ...
It's called payback. People (and countries) have long memories.

Russia made a mistake. They should have left Baltics under German/Swedish rule and Latvians would be a memory like native Prussians (their cousins), like Tasmanians (who benefited from the tolerant democratic Anglos) and the bird dodo.

They should not have created Polish Kingdom in 1815 and instead have left Warsaw, Krakow, Poznan under German/Austrian rule (as it was done during the partitions).

They did not emulate American way of dealing with the native tribes and as a result their country of hundred languages (many of them having official status).

This is how the bird dodo looked like:


95 posted on 03/29/2005 5:29:56 AM PST by A. Pole (Graham Greene: "Innocence is like a dumb leper who has lost his bell, wandering the world ...")
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To: A. Pole
Yeah, Poles learned their lesson of pre-war Poland. Living in a country doesn't mean you are ready to fight for its independence. Unassimilated minorities can be a threat no less than your country's enemies. I'll set some examples - who knows them better than us Poles. My father's family was denounced to Soviets by a Jew, Polish citizen. We had some "truthful" Polish-German Volksdeutsche in Slask as well. The same concerns Ukrainians with Polish citizenship in Wolyn. Some members of these ethnic groups took advantage of their privileged postition (partly Polish - partly "other") in the time of a moral probe. Fortunately of course there were brave, truthful Polish Jews, too. I'd rather call them Poles of Jewish origin. Anyway I am really glad our minorities are real minorities nowadays and this is not our problem anymore.

You don't speak country's official language, know nothing about it history etc. - you don't become a citizen. As simple as that. Over. If you want to become a conscious citizen with a right to decide upon your motherland's fate, represent your group in dealings with other groups... Then prove you deserve it by passing a language/history test at least. Is this unfair for you? I think best test for Latvian citizenship of Russians would be their behaviour after Latvia was reinvaded (hopefully this will never happen). It makes me wonder if they'd pass blood test for their country's independence, too.
96 posted on 03/29/2005 6:01:03 AM PST by twinself
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To: A. Pole
Russians are as likely to speak Latvian as Anglos are to speak Creole or Esperanto. It is not a very useful skill.

It is if they want to become a Latvian citizen.

97 posted on 03/29/2005 6:13:37 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: RussianBoor
before so-called occupation Latvia had been a part of Russian Empire for 200 years

Not anymore. Get used to it.

98 posted on 03/29/2005 6:15:59 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
They were citizens of the USSR, not Latvia. If they would like to become citizens of Latvia, it is not unreasonable that they take a few tests.

There were no citizens of Latvia until 1990. When Latvia obtained its independence, the equitable thing to do would have been to grant blanket citizenship to any citizen of the former USSR then living within Latvia's borders.

Basing citizenship on some racial or ethnic standards is distasteful, to say the least.

99 posted on 03/29/2005 7:07:37 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm in favor of limited government unless it limits what I want government to do."- dirtboy)
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To: twinself

How about the Belruss and Ukrainians in inter-war Poland, which held the western oblasts of those countries. I'm sure they had a lot of love for the military dictator while their churches were being burned down for refusing to convert to catholicism. I'm sure that had nothing to do with it. Ever wonder why the Zaprochina Cossaks rebelled so often against the Polish kings?


100 posted on 03/29/2005 7:10:40 AM PST by jb6 (Truth == Christ)
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