Citizenship row divides Latvia

BBC News ^ | 25 March, 2005 | Angus Roxburgh

[Tailgunner Joe]

Then you'd be wrong.

[Tailgunner Joe]

You on the other hand have already enthusiastically endorsed giving citizenship to any and all aliens who may theoretically invade the US.

Maybe it is your racism which has led you to such treasonous anti-Americanism.

[RussianBoor]

Yes. They now had the power to kick out the invaders who had been degrading and destroying their nation and culture.

A nice piece of logic. So all that is about the power to kick out somebody. If you have power you can kick whomever you want, eh? Like white settlers kicked out Indians and later Mexicans from Texas and California, for instance?

I know that you intend to stay in power and anyway evil communists were not so efficient in getting rid of native population as white settlers of America, California and Texas. But suppose for a sec that to become an American citizen Mexicans or Indians would require you to learn Spanish (I do not even ask to learn Navajo) and take an exam of the history of native Americans as well as Spanish conquistadors. All that only because your distant ancestors came to America from somewhere else. And I do not even speak of kicking you out of America because your ancestors had been degrading and destroying the Native nations and culture. I apologize in advance if you happen to be a Native American and keep and uphold the native American culture, but something tells me this is very unlikely.

[1rudeboy]

Please. You seek to justify what the Soviets attempted to do because of what happened to American Indians? What next, do you suggest that we put Latvians on reservations?

[Modernman]

You on the other hand have already enthusiastically endorsed giving citizenship to any and all aliens who may theoretically invade the US.

Nothing enthusiastic about it. If the USA were to be conquered and spent 50 years under some opressive foreign regime, we would have to deal with in a realistic manner after the empire fell apart. What would you do in that case, kick out people who had lived in the US for several generations?

Are you a supporter of Robert Mugabe? The two of you share the same rhetoric and beliefs about "Language, Culture, Borders." You must support his program to drive the white farmers out of Zimbabwe.

Maybe it is your racism which has led you to such treasonous anti-Americanism.

You do not exhibit any ideals that could be labelled "American." You would be more comfortable living in Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan than among true Americans.

Have you found any evidence of my support for genocide of Latvians, mein Herr?

[Modernman]

Doubt it. You just don't have the courage to share your true views on racial purity for fear of getting banned from FR.

[Tailgunner Joe]

When the Mexicans and Indians have the power to take back Texas and California, then I'm sure they'll do as they please.

[Tailgunner Joe]

I completely repudiate all racialist philosophies.

[1rudeboy]

One generation tops, comrade. And seeing that most ethnic Russians were in favor of Baltic independence, then it cannot be that much of a burden to LEARN THE DARN LANGUAGE.

[GarySpFc]

Some believe in loyalty to their nation's flag and not to "progressive" notions of "international" human rights. Some people think they have the right to force their racebaiting multicultralism/diversity and reverse racism on the whole rest of the world.

And America's flag has as its foundation a people who established freedom based upon Christian principle of morality, which you have obviously discarded.

[1rudeboy]

Nothing is more humorous than someone seeking to wrap themselves in an American flag after he occupies a country by force.

[Tailgunner Joe]

You must support the communist expropriators of land in Zimbabwe as you do those in the former Soviet Union.

[Modernman]

One generation tops, comrade. And seeing that most ethnic Russians were in favor of Baltic independence, then it cannot be that much of a burden to LEARN THE DARN LANGUAGE.

According to the article, many of these people already speak Latvian. They just refuse, and rightfully so, to take a test that is not required for all Latvian citizens.

Would you support the US government requiring all people of Hispanic descent to take an English and citizenship test?

[Modernman]

Wow, you and I actually agree on something?

[1rudeboy]

Yes, if they forcibly occupied our nation.

[jb6]

Natural born Americans are free to do as they please as long as they don't break the law. If they wish to sit in their enclave and speak French, like in Louisiana, that's their prerogative.

[Modernman]

You must support the communist expropriators of land in Zimbabwe as you do those in the former Soviet Union.

How does that follow? The USSR stole the land from everyone in that country, regardless of ethnicity. I am quite opposed to that.

Do you support Robert Mugabe's efforts to drive out white farmers? Following your beliefs in "Borders. Language, Culture," you must.

[Tailgunner Joe]

After all, black Zimbabweans are completely innocent of Mugabe's crimes right? They shouldn't now have to give up the land he stole back to its rightful owners just because of Mugabe's policies, right? The war is over and the former owners of the land will just have to deal with the brave and patriotic war veterans in a realistic way, right?

[Modernman]

Yes, if they forcibly occupied our nation.

The Russians in Latvia did no such thing. They were resettled there by the multi-ethnic Soviet government, at gunpoint.

[jb6]

I wonder what he thinks of all the Swedish culture that was imposed upon the Latvians for 300 years? Or the Lithuanian culture that was imposed upon them and upon the Belaruss/Russians/Ukrainians? Again, you don't see Latvians in Russia denied citizenship or force to take humiliating tests when they were born there, but then again you don't see NKVD veteran parades either.