Posted on 03/26/2005 4:40:38 AM PST by tessalu
Of course these people do not understand that Terri's parents asked that if the tube was going to come out, that they pleaded with Judge that it be done in their home so that Terri could die at home.
AGAIN GREER DENIED THEIR REQUEST!
I would say many.
In the article he mentions this is causing people to question their decisions.
clear indication of what is going on.
They need to question their decisions.
This hell may save a person's life.
If I were to stand across the street from your house and use a bull horn to quote scripture or Shakespeare, that'd be constitutional. However, the boys in blue would haul me off because I was creating a public nuisance, violating noise ordinances and just being a pain in general. As they hauled me off, I'd call my buds and have them continue the readings. Again, constitutional, but wrong.
Just because it's constitutional, doesn't mean it's morally right.
Not sure about Constitutional, but there are noise ordnances as well as "quiet zones" around hospitals and certain other health care facilities here in Maryland. I have no idea if they have any similar laws or ordnances down there.
It's common decency. What kind of SOB will disturb the peace of those dying in a hospice?
I don't think you understand just how angry this makes me just thinking about it. There is absolutely NO way I would've been able to restrain inflicting severe physical injury on anyone who would've disturbed my late wife's final days in the hospice. I would've beaten them senseless with their megaphones.
There's a limit to my tolerance - no one is allowed to harm my loved ones.
Common decency for some not for others. Common decency denied Terry by michael and others. If I had family there, I'd demand michael be thrown out, since he is the cause.
I care about anyone in imminent danger of leaving this earth. I must ask, though, how many of them are being deliberately and maliciously starved to death?
Yes, theere are noise ordinences, here in Fla., too. If they are getting out of hand, I understand there's plenty of cops, willing to arrest.
That being said, I noticed an interesting comment in this story:
Getz said many people with a family member in a hospice have to make the same excruciating decision that courts have made for Schiavo.
Now, if it is the Same decision, that means that feeding tubes have been removed. Hospices are to ease death, not cause death.
If I was in the US, I would most certainly be camped outside the hospice, not because of television cameras but as a physical sign of my solidarity and Christian love for Terri. I hope those who are present are there for that reason.
After what we've seen this past week, what might be going on in some hospices does not bear thinking about.
Greer was adamant that she get no water or food, whether by tube or by mouth. The key was to kill her, not just pull a tube.
Greer had to know that Terri had some swallowing ability. If her parents took her home, they would have her and not Michael and the hospice. They could have given, or tried to give, her liquid/food by mouth.
She might have survived. She might have proved to the world that Greer was maliciously wrong in pretending that she needed, in fact, wanted to die. Of course he would deny her going home with her parents. He was worried she wouldn't die.
Then would he be in trouble.
brigette, I know what you said was in context of angry people who blame Terri and her family for her and the protestors disturbing the peace at the hospice. It wasn't in context of why Greer ruled as he did. I just wanted to throw that in as to his motive. Bottom line, the family did not want Terri at the hospice and of course she did not want to be there. That was forced by Michael, Felos and Greer. The protestors were there only in pursuant to their rights. If Terri were not forced there, ipso facto, no protestors.
None that would have any impact like being right outside.
The Schindlers visited their daughter at the hospice, where protesters could show them support. Michael is there, so that's where they can register their disgust. And if it weren't for Michael, who sentenced her to death via Judge Greer, she wouldn't even be at a hospice. Hospice is for dying people. Terri isn't terminally ill.
It's silly to suggest this is "self-centered." Nobody who is protesting is doing it for themselves.
BZZZZ! Wrong.
Oh yes it did.
WHAT WOULD JOHN KERRY HAVE DONE?????????????????????????
NOTHING AT ALL.
Do say, HUM?
WHAT WOULD JOHN KERRY HAVE DONE?
Nothing at all.
Maybe you should get your facts straight.
You don't know what she wanted in this situation.
You only know what some judge said she would have wanted.
Lets face it, some consider her a drain on society so she has to go.
WHAT WOULD JOHN KERRY HAVE DONE?
nothing at all
She got there - one minute too late.
Johnson said the chaos outside the hospice where Terri Schiavo is dying kept her from saying goodbye. When Johnson arrived, a police officer demanded identification; she had none. And after a hospice employee cleared her, another officer halted her for a search with a metal detector.
OK, lemme get this straight...Ms. Johnson "ran to her grandfather's bedside once a hospice worker said his death was moments away," but couldn't get inside the hospice because a police officer wanted her ID, which she didn't have.
From where did Ms. Johnson "run" while barefoot in pj's? Within the hospice itself? From an adjacent building? Or from the parking lot of the hospice (mentioned later in the story)? And if she drove to the hospice, why didn't she have her driver's license?
Did "a hospice worker" tell Johnson personally that her grandpa was dying? Or did s/he tell her over the phone, causing Ms. Johnson leap out of bed and drive to the hospice without her license? And should not have the hospice worker told Ms. Johnson that she'd have to bring ID to get inside?
Either this writer is sloppy as all get out, or this incident was carefully constructed to make it seem as if the protesters are responsible for Ms. Johnson's situation.
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