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Daddy, Why are the Courts Trying to Kill Terri Schiavo?
The National Ledger ^ | March 26, 2005 | Justin Darr

Posted on 03/25/2005 7:21:10 PM PST by Coastal

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To: UCANSEE2

If I am reading this right, She was responding to one of the deleted posts (#12)...that is not her view...her thoughts about it are in the last sentence separated from the rest of the post.
Blessings
Tracy


61 posted on 03/25/2005 10:20:09 PM PST by trussell (I am frowning today. God please save Terri, comfort her family. Grant them rest, and peace.)
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To: proudmilitarymrs
"Tell her that when Terri had conscious awareness, she did not want to be like this."

Well, nobody wants to be like that. But where did you get the idea that she wanted to be starved to death? You shouldn't believe everything a corrupt lawyer and his paid-off hack judge tell you.

62 posted on 03/25/2005 10:27:44 PM PST by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad)
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To: cookcounty

See post 61!


63 posted on 03/25/2005 10:30:15 PM PST by trussell (I am frowning today. God please save Terri, comfort her family. Grant them rest, and peace.)
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To: robertpaulsen

Murder becomes lawful when ordered by a judge? That is ridiculous. Judges do not make the law. They do not enforece the law. This little blind,swampt-rat judge is way, way over his head, ordering where he has no business ordering, throwing out what he has no business throwing out. My only prayer now is that he be held accountable.


64 posted on 03/25/2005 10:35:48 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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To: robertpaulsen
She made it known to at least three people, one of whom was her husband, one her best friend

Wrong: the 3 people claiming this a re MS, his BROTHER, and his BROTHER's wife.

Her best friend said that Terri said the opposite. She said that when Terri was 19 they were watching something on TV about Karen Quinlin who was in a coma, and whose parent had pulled the plug on life support. She said Terri said that it was wrong to pull the plug, that while there was life there was hope. The judge said that this testimony could not be true since Karen Quinlin died in 1976 when Terri was only 12 years old. So Judge Greer said the testimony was not credible. Seems reasonable, right. Wrong, Karen Quinlin had her life support plug pulled in 1976, but did NOT die until 1985. Omnipotent Judge Greer was wrong.

And how about Michael's first girlfriend after Terri's misfortune, her RELUCANT testimony (she said she was scared of MS): Regarding Terri’s care, according to Cindy Shook, Michael Schiavo said: "How the hell should I know we never spoke about this, my God I was only 25 years old. How the hell should I know? We were young. We never spoke of this."

He also discounted the testimony of Terri's first Guardian Ad Litem who said in 1999 that Michael's claim of Terri's death wish was not in the least credible. Judge Greer seems to have a history of bad judgment on discerning the credibility of witnesses. Surely you recall that a woman came to him asking for a restraining order on her husband, She said he was out to kill her. The good judge denied the request. Good call, for the husband that is. The woman is now dead at the hands of the husband. So keep defending him. It's possible Terri would not want to live like this (If I believed that to be the case I would support her wishes). But I think any open-minded person would conclude that there is a reasonable doubt as to whether or not Terri had a death wish.

I've seen a number of Michael supports say that Jay Wolfson, Terri's most recent Guardian Ad Litem agrees with what is happening: In his report to the court he stated "To benefit Theresa, and in the overall interests of justice, good science, and public policy, there needs to be a fresh, clean-hands start."

65 posted on 03/25/2005 11:41:28 PM PST by feedback doctor (it's Schindler, Her name is Terri Schindler)
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To: Coastal

Because in a socialist state, that which doesn't fit the plan must be destroyed.


66 posted on 03/25/2005 11:53:13 PM PST by thoughtomator
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To: Earthdweller; feedback doctor; Coastal

you're flaming the wrong person here! my response was to clarkiel.


67 posted on 03/26/2005 6:33:46 AM PST by proudmilitarymrs (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: UCANSEE2

you're flaming me in error, my response was to clarkiel


68 posted on 03/26/2005 6:35:51 AM PST by proudmilitarymrs (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: cookcounty

reread the post, I did not say that, you're all jumping on the wrong lady here folks


69 posted on 03/26/2005 6:36:54 AM PST by proudmilitarymrs (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: TAdams8591

No, Virginia the Judge followed the law. And since we are a country that lives under the rule of law we must also follow it too. We will now work to change the law and make it fairer for the next person.


70 posted on 03/26/2005 6:49:45 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: proudmilitarymrs
Tell your daughter that dying is a natural part of life, and she will be with God soon.

Tell the daughter that the culture of death is natural to Democrats. While death is a natural end to earthly existence, Democrats, Communists, Liberals, Nazis and assorted socialists prefer to hasten the process when it furthers their political agenda; that is, kill the unborn, the infirm, the defenseless, set free the murderers and pederasts to cower the bourgeoisie, and promote the homosexual lifestyle (together with adopted kids from the bourgeoisie) so that the population will stagnate and die off.

This, then, will require an explanation as to how illegal immigrants will supplant the overfed, overpaid and inconvenient middle class so that big corporations can reduce wages and Balkanize the new work force into easily controlled company towns. Fortunately, this is the ultimate Utopian dream of sustainable poverty for the proletariat.

Remember, "to each according to his needs, and work according to his ability." And that, Virginia, is why there is a Santa Clause and Wilson Smith is my hero...

71 posted on 03/26/2005 7:23:04 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: robertpaulsen
She is not being murdered. How can she be? Murder is the unlawful

killing -- a judge ordered the tube removed. Sounds pretty darn lawful to me.

Friend, you would have felt right at home in Communist Russia. Stalin ordered millions of Ukrainians starved to death as he confiscated their private farms and livestock, and he ordered countless other millions into the Gulag from which they never returned. The judicial system in the USSR supported all these actions. (The New York Times had no problem with that, either.)

72 posted on 03/26/2005 8:33:50 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.d)
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To: mad_as_he$$

No. The judges did NOT follow the rule of law established by congress. Judge Greer directly disobeyed a sucpoena by Congress and disregarded the law and the Constitutioin all throughout Terri's case. Thus, Jeb Bush and the President have every right to go in and get Terri.


73 posted on 03/26/2005 10:15:13 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: proudmilitarymrs
Sorry for the mishap..I wondered if that were the case so If I said anything nasty just send it too the person who deserved it.

:^)

74 posted on 03/26/2005 11:36:58 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Isn't it ironice that these same children that are watching this will be the same children that will make "life" decisions for their parents. "What goes around comes around". Our children only know what we show them.........Pulling of the tube of Humanity will affect us all.....


75 posted on 03/26/2005 11:43:59 AM PST by Two-Bits (May You Never be looked on with Pity from your love ones but only with love and compassion!)
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To: trussell

"If I am reading this right, She was responding to one of the deleted posts (#12)...that is not her view...her thoughts about it are in the last sentence separated from the rest of the post."


thank you ever so much, it's getting rather hot in here!


76 posted on 03/26/2005 12:00:43 PM PST by proudmilitarymrs (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: proudmilitarymrs

I was sending that out in freepmail at first, but when I saw that many others were making the same mistake, I decided it needed to be posted.

Sorry you got flamed! You certainly didn't deserve it!!


77 posted on 03/26/2005 2:21:11 PM PST by trussell (I am frowning today. God please save Terri, comfort her family. Grant them rest, and peace.)
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To: TAdams8591

I beg your pardon, HE clearly followed Florida Law as noted in several threads here. Spouse, Kids, Relatives is the order. Congress getting involved was just stupid and piling on for their own advantage.


78 posted on 03/26/2005 8:21:27 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: feedback doctor
"there needs to be a fresh, clean-hands start."

Nah. The stale, dirty-hands version is just fine.

If the people coming forth since the January, 2000 ruling couldn't bother to take the time to testify back then, screw 'em. They had their chance.

Why isn't your first question to them, "Where were you when Terri needed you? Where were you when it could have made a difference?"

Haven't you ever wondered about that? Could there be a reason that they didn't want to testify under oath and be subject to cross examination? And perjury charges?

79 posted on 03/26/2005 8:43:05 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: ArmyTeach
"Murder becomes lawful when ordered by a judge?"

Under Florida law it has been established, that before a court may issue an order to carry out the wishes of a patient who it is alleged wants to terminate their life, due process requires “clear and convincing evidence” of the patient’s wish to be produced in court. before such an order may be issued.

The controlling case law is: In re Guardianship of Browning, 543 So.2d 258, 275 (Fla. 2d DCA 1989). Note the date -- one year before Terri's incident.

"ordering where he has no business ordering,"

Per the above, he has every business ordering.

80 posted on 03/26/2005 8:47:36 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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