Posted on 03/25/2005 7:21:10 PM PST by Coastal
If I am reading this right, She was responding to one of the deleted posts (#12)...that is not her view...her thoughts about it are in the last sentence separated from the rest of the post.
Blessings
Tracy
Well, nobody wants to be like that. But where did you get the idea that she wanted to be starved to death? You shouldn't believe everything a corrupt lawyer and his paid-off hack judge tell you.
See post 61!
Murder becomes lawful when ordered by a judge? That is ridiculous. Judges do not make the law. They do not enforece the law. This little blind,swampt-rat judge is way, way over his head, ordering where he has no business ordering, throwing out what he has no business throwing out. My only prayer now is that he be held accountable.
Wrong: the 3 people claiming this a re MS, his BROTHER, and his BROTHER's wife.
Her best friend said that Terri said the opposite. She said that when Terri was 19 they were watching something on TV about Karen Quinlin who was in a coma, and whose parent had pulled the plug on life support. She said Terri said that it was wrong to pull the plug, that while there was life there was hope. The judge said that this testimony could not be true since Karen Quinlin died in 1976 when Terri was only 12 years old. So Judge Greer said the testimony was not credible. Seems reasonable, right. Wrong, Karen Quinlin had her life support plug pulled in 1976, but did NOT die until 1985. Omnipotent Judge Greer was wrong.
And how about Michael's first girlfriend after Terri's misfortune, her RELUCANT testimony (she said she was scared of MS): Regarding Terri’s care, according to Cindy Shook, Michael Schiavo said: "How the hell should I know we never spoke about this, my God I was only 25 years old. How the hell should I know? We were young. We never spoke of this."
He also discounted the testimony of Terri's first Guardian Ad Litem who said in 1999 that Michael's claim of Terri's death wish was not in the least credible. Judge Greer seems to have a history of bad judgment on discerning the credibility of witnesses. Surely you recall that a woman came to him asking for a restraining order on her husband, She said he was out to kill her. The good judge denied the request. Good call, for the husband that is. The woman is now dead at the hands of the husband. So keep defending him. It's possible Terri would not want to live like this (If I believed that to be the case I would support her wishes). But I think any open-minded person would conclude that there is a reasonable doubt as to whether or not Terri had a death wish.
I've seen a number of Michael supports say that Jay Wolfson, Terri's most recent Guardian Ad Litem agrees with what is happening: In his report to the court he stated "To benefit Theresa, and in the overall interests of justice, good science, and public policy, there needs to be a fresh, clean-hands start."
Because in a socialist state, that which doesn't fit the plan must be destroyed.
you're flaming the wrong person here! my response was to clarkiel.
you're flaming me in error, my response was to clarkiel
reread the post, I did not say that, you're all jumping on the wrong lady here folks
No, Virginia the Judge followed the law. And since we are a country that lives under the rule of law we must also follow it too. We will now work to change the law and make it fairer for the next person.
Tell the daughter that the culture of death is natural to Democrats. While death is a natural end to earthly existence, Democrats, Communists, Liberals, Nazis and assorted socialists prefer to hasten the process when it furthers their political agenda; that is, kill the unborn, the infirm, the defenseless, set free the murderers and pederasts to cower the bourgeoisie, and promote the homosexual lifestyle (together with adopted kids from the bourgeoisie) so that the population will stagnate and die off.
This, then, will require an explanation as to how illegal immigrants will supplant the overfed, overpaid and inconvenient middle class so that big corporations can reduce wages and Balkanize the new work force into easily controlled company towns. Fortunately, this is the ultimate Utopian dream of sustainable poverty for the proletariat.
Remember, "to each according to his needs, and work according to his ability." And that, Virginia, is why there is a Santa Clause and Wilson Smith is my hero...
killing -- a judge ordered the tube removed. Sounds pretty darn lawful to me.
Friend, you would have felt right at home in Communist Russia. Stalin ordered millions of Ukrainians starved to death as he confiscated their private farms and livestock, and he ordered countless other millions into the Gulag from which they never returned. The judicial system in the USSR supported all these actions. (The New York Times had no problem with that, either.)
No. The judges did NOT follow the rule of law established by congress. Judge Greer directly disobeyed a sucpoena by Congress and disregarded the law and the Constitutioin all throughout Terri's case. Thus, Jeb Bush and the President have every right to go in and get Terri.
:^)
Isn't it ironice that these same children that are watching this will be the same children that will make "life" decisions for their parents. "What goes around comes around". Our children only know what we show them.........Pulling of the tube of Humanity will affect us all.....
"If I am reading this right, She was responding to one of the deleted posts (#12)...that is not her view...her thoughts about it are in the last sentence separated from the rest of the post."
thank you ever so much, it's getting rather hot in here!
I was sending that out in freepmail at first, but when I saw that many others were making the same mistake, I decided it needed to be posted.
Sorry you got flamed! You certainly didn't deserve it!!
I beg your pardon, HE clearly followed Florida Law as noted in several threads here. Spouse, Kids, Relatives is the order. Congress getting involved was just stupid and piling on for their own advantage.
Nah. The stale, dirty-hands version is just fine.
If the people coming forth since the January, 2000 ruling couldn't bother to take the time to testify back then, screw 'em. They had their chance.
Why isn't your first question to them, "Where were you when Terri needed you? Where were you when it could have made a difference?"
Haven't you ever wondered about that? Could there be a reason that they didn't want to testify under oath and be subject to cross examination? And perjury charges?
Under Florida law it has been established, that before a court may issue an order to carry out the wishes of a patient who it is alleged wants to terminate their life, due process requires “clear and convincing evidence” of the patient’s wish to be produced in court. before such an order may be issued.
The controlling case law is: In re Guardianship of Browning, 543 So.2d 258, 275 (Fla. 2d DCA 1989). Note the date -- one year before Terri's incident.
"ordering where he has no business ordering,"
Per the above, he has every business ordering.
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