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CNN: Schiavo's Parents Get 'Emergency Hearing'
CNN ^ | Friday, March 25, 2005

Posted on 03/25/2005 1:49:37 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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I was listening the Hannity on my way home from work and he said that the Miami Herald is reporting that the day Jeb held the press conference along with DCF, a DCF agent was en route to get Terri with medical personal.
Some cop tipped off Felos about what they were planning, Felos told the judge and they slapped a restraining order on DCF and the Governor.
41 posted on 03/25/2005 2:10:23 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: OneTimeLurker
I don't believe she said what her father claims she said, but I don't believe she said what her husband claims she said either. I don't think that they will believe the father, but I bet that if her husband claimed that she told him before her problem that she WOULD want to be kept alive and that her father claimed that in her current state she claimed she wanted to die, the judges would believe the father.
42 posted on 03/25/2005 2:10:38 PM PST by mistersoapy
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To: snarkytart

That's horrible.


43 posted on 03/25/2005 2:11:36 PM PST by Petronski (If Reichskanzler Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

He's probably referring to the statement of attorney Barbara Weller - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1367349/posts

Of course it'll never fly.


44 posted on 03/25/2005 2:11:43 PM PST by agrace
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To: E=MC<sup>2</sup>

Euphoric my a**. If I had a TV and had to hear and see those subhumans, I'd probably have a heart attack.


45 posted on 03/25/2005 2:12:17 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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To: OneTimeLurker
If they think she is in a persistent vegetative state, there is no way they will find this credible.

Doctors for Michael Schiavo have said that an MRI and PET are not necessary for Terri because PVS is primarily a “clinical” diagnosis, that is, one arrived at on the basis of examination of the patient, rather than by relying on tests. And the neurologists I have spoken to agree on the clinical nature of the diagnosis, while insisting that advanced tests nonetheless are a necessary part of it. But the star medical witness for Michael Schiavo, Dr. Ronald Cranford of the University of Minnesota, has repeatedly dismissed calls for MRI testing, and his opinion has prevailed.

Dr. Cranford was the principal medical witness brought in by Schiavo and Felos to support their position that Terri was PVS. Judge Greer was obviously impressed by Cranford’s résumé: Cranford travels throughout the country testifying in cases involving PVS and brain impairment. He is widely recognized by courts as an expert in these issues, and in some circles is considered “the” expert on PVS. His clinical judgment has carried the day in many cases, so it is relevant to examine the manner in which he arrived at his judgment in Terri’s case. But before that, one needs to know a little about Cranford’s background and perspective: Dr. Ronald Cranford is one of the most outspoken advocates of the “right to die” movement and of physician-assisted suicide in the U.S. today.

In published articles, including a 1997 op-ed in the Minneapolis–St. Paul Star Tribune, he has advocated the starvation of Alzheimer’s patients. He has described PVS patients as indistinguishable from other forms of animal life. He has said that PVS patients and others with brain impairment lack personhood and should have no constitutional rights. Perusing the case literature and articles surrounding the “right to die” and PVS, one will see Dr. Cranford’s name surface again and again. In almost every case, he is the one claiming PVS, and advocating the cessation of nutrition and hydration.

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National Review

Not to mention the fact that assuming this is the first time he thought to say this, it's a little absurd.

She tried to say it the first day they took the tube out.

Terri Schiavo: 'I Waaaannt [To Live]'

Maybe you should lurk a little more often...

46 posted on 03/25/2005 2:12:38 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Catspaw

SO, she said "I waaaaa" and so it is assumed she meant "I want to live"? How do they know she didn't say "I waaaant a haaaaam saaaandwich" for crying out loud???? Maybe she wasn't saying anything at all, and was merely making attempts to vocalize something completely unrelated like "I love you" or something...???

I mean, from all reports, this is a woman who cannot think, cannot reason, let alone form sentences...

I'm really curious about this... for two reasons:

1. If she DID say something, then the PVS is bulls**t and this needds to be looked into a LOT closer... or
2. Elements who will stop at nothing to get the tubes put back in, including make up stories...


47 posted on 03/25/2005 2:13:29 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Borges

Good point; however, I've also heard stories of miners trapped belowground (very cool) and the ravages thirst caused on them.


48 posted on 03/25/2005 2:13:32 PM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup> (...And on the 666th day, satan created the demonrat party.)
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To: E=MC<sup>2</sup>
I read books during my school days about men adrift in the ocean for long periods of time without water, and their reactions were anything but the peaceful, euphoric bodily response the culture of death is trying to foist on us.

Quite obviously it was the sun that got them, not the thirst. < /sarcasm >

50 posted on 03/25/2005 2:14:09 PM PST by agrace
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To: West Coast Conservative

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51 posted on 03/25/2005 2:14:20 PM PST by Saint Reagan
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To: Chad Fairbanks

The point is, if she is, indeed in PVS, then she WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EXPRESS ANYTHING.


52 posted on 03/25/2005 2:14:30 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: green pastures
Of course she can swallow, green pastures ... testimony from her caregivers tell how much she enjoyed the liquids. She swallowed her saliva all the time. Her caregivers said she didn't drool.
53 posted on 03/25/2005 2:14:37 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: snarkytart

No the hospital, Morton Plant called Felos.


54 posted on 03/25/2005 2:14:52 PM PST by pitinkie (revenge will be sweet)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
When did she say 'I want to live'? HOW did she say it?

See #46...the first day.

55 posted on 03/25/2005 2:15:06 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Chad Fairbanks

As I recall, she was asked "Do you want to live?"

That would seem to narrow down her answer.


56 posted on 03/25/2005 2:15:40 PM PST by Petronski (If Reichskanzler Greer can kill Terri, who will be next?)
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To: nicmarlo
The point is, if she is, indeed in PVS, then she WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EXPRESS ANYTHING.

With the exception, possibly, of primitive noises completely unrelated to human speech? I really dont' know...

57 posted on 03/25/2005 2:16:02 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Petronski

But how could that be? seriously... When was the last time anyone tested her ability to swallow?


58 posted on 03/25/2005 2:16:26 PM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Chad, there are only about 50 threads on FR reporting this several days back. Go look.


59 posted on 03/25/2005 2:16:41 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Chad Fairbanks
How do they know she didn't say "I waaaant a haaaaam saaaandwich" for crying out loud????

Because that was not the topic of conversation. They were trying to get her to say she wanted to live. Don't be ridiculous.

60 posted on 03/25/2005 2:16:46 PM PST by ravingnutter
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