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To: TheSpottedOwl
Thanks for the info, including the Medicare fraud stuff.

Here's some immigrant-related fraud. Billions here and billions there pretty soon it adds up to a trillion. A little US Senator Everett Dirksen talk there.

"The checks are in the mail - illegal aliens benefit from Earned Income Tax Credit," National Review, April 17, 1995 by Roy Beck

This old article shows that fraud (IMO) is persistent and it ain't just ILLEGAL immigrants.

"As usual, the cumulative costs from legal immigration tower over those from illegal . . .IRS records indicate some $250 million in EIC subsidies for illegal aliens in 1990 . . . But . . . five times that amount [is] going to legal immigrants. . . . Why should the government continue to allow legal entry of hundreds of thousands of low-skilled foreign workers when U.S. taxpayers end up subsidizing them (and their employers) . . . ."

Another source says, "Between 1997 and 1999, the IRS issued some $2 billion in erroneous Earned Income Credit payments to illegal aliens." (Those are the years when the size of the SSA's Earnings Suspense File, ESF, began to explode indicating a huge increase in the use of bogus SSNs)

What about today and "regularization" (guest worker amnesty)? A CIS study says, "Illegals currently account for only 1.5 percent of the program’s [EIC] total costs, but if they were legalized their use of the program would grow tenfold because with legal status they would no longer need stolen or bogus Social Security numbers to get the credit. This dramatic rise in costs is not due to laziness on the part of immigrants. In fact, only those who work receive the EITC. The dramatic rise in costs simply reflects the low educational attainment of illegals and their resulting low incomes."

A news item on that study is at

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595086893,00.html

If we could eliminate just some of the fraud (subsidizing employers, for example) we could balance the budget and split a trillion dollars, I bet. Let's see a trillion divided by. . . .

42 posted on 03/27/2005 11:53:50 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: All
Fat chance of either Party doing anything about ILLEGAL immigration. The Rats have reasons to want 'em but the holier-than-thou, anti-minimum wage, pro-"cheap" labor mainline (Rockefeller?) Republicans' reasons are silly.

We're paying high prices anyway when you include taxpayer-funded employer subsidies and other social costs paid by taxes and "fees".

The Rush Limbaughs meanwhile say, "I am tired of carrying you people on my back." You people meaning those collecting unemployment insurance and transfer payments such as EITC.

I've had an awakening though. Maybe those Republicans are not so silly?

Now that many conservatives enthusiastically join the secularist "progressives" and support ridding the U.S. of our "sub-humans" it's nothing for them to end the need for employer subsidies and end minimum wages as well.

Enter the era of labor camps to house and feed "cheap" labor and their (our?) wretched families. A mixture of citizens and ILLEGALs, it matters not.

It's kind of like what new Democrat Third Way "progressive" enviro-nut wackos want too.

(Another reason for the mainline Republicans and the progressives to partner, first reason being "free trade" transfer of technology, wealth, and production to developing nations like Red China.)

Centrally located labor near transportation hubs thus freeing near 99% of the continent that is to be restored to its 1492 beauty. Only the anointed ones, Rockefeller Republicans and Clinton progressives, are worthy of access to that paradise. What a deal!

Just a mite bit of sarcasm? -- but after the killing of Terri Schiavo I am not so sure. What's next?

43 posted on 03/27/2005 1:06:14 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Thank you for your reply. While rank and file taxpayers are getting reamed every payday, everyone else and their brother skates. Look I know how, but HOW can illegals get an earned income tax credit, if they aren't supposed to be here in the first place???? Don't bother answering :(


46 posted on 03/28/2005 8:41:56 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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