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Schiavo's Parents Appeal the Federal Judges Ruling
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Posted on 03/25/2005 6:21:55 AM PST by sonsofliberty2000

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To: george wythe

Question - was the prior statute ruled unconstitutional based on a patient's right to refuse medical treatment? If not that, then what?


121 posted on 03/25/2005 10:33:27 AM PST by agrace
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To: Destro
>>I agree - Roe v Wade trampled state's rights - which I though we Republicans and or Conservatives were fighting to restore? Or do we get to violate principles now that the left did? i.e. they can do one bad thing so we can do one bad thing? Is that what you advocate?<<


Let me see if I can get this through your thick head.
The state legislature which is made up of ELECTED OFFICIALS tried to save Terri, only to have the Florida Supreme court throw the law out. You remember the Florida Supreme court , right?
It was the same court that decided to throw out part of the state law regarding election recounts in the middle of the 2000 recount.

I am for putting courts back in check.
I am not against states rights.
122 posted on 03/25/2005 10:38:35 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: Destro

>>Let's throw out the sancity of marriage while we are at it - we already trampled on state's rights<<


No need, that is already being done by the courts you love so much.


123 posted on 03/25/2005 10:42:12 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: tomahawk
>>A very disturbed individual.

My skin crawls when I see him<<

Yea Felos is a weirdo.

I wonder what his daddy or uncle did to him late at night when nobody was watching to create such a deviant mind.

*shudders*
124 posted on 03/25/2005 10:45:37 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: Warlord

>>Before we turn our attention to "clean[ing] up our legal system," social conservatives ought to think hard about political alliances with libertarian types. Judge Greer is NOT a liberal Democrat, but Republican bent on imposing economic materialism and an atomistic concept of liberty. Judge Greer would be a hero in the "Atlas Shrugged" world. Terri's passion has forced us to look at an evil as bad as socialistic materialism, an evil tolerated for the sake of tax cuts and deregulation.<<<


So true.


125 posted on 03/25/2005 10:47:05 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: Raycpa
Untrue. I have considered the possibility that Terri would prefer to be starved and dehydrated to death to being in PVS or severely disabled. However, I find the evidence she felt that way sorely lacking; and, when the stakes are life and death, I demand clear, written proof.
126 posted on 03/25/2005 10:48:36 AM PST by utahagen
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To: agrace
Question - was the prior statute ruled unconstitutional based on a patient's right to refuse medical treatment?

Yes.

Some patient may decide to refuse vital medical treatment because of his religious beliefs, such as Christian Scientists or Jehovah's Witnesses. Another patient may reject vital medical treatment because his current qualify of life is unacceptable.

It does not matter the reason to reject medical treatment. It's a inalienable right to individuals that no state statute can override.

127 posted on 03/25/2005 10:57:50 AM PST by george wythe
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To: El_Doctor
Who is truly willing to be even arrested to save Terri and stand up for Pro-Life

Well, there are at least two children, that I know of..........

128 posted on 03/25/2005 10:59:57 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: agrace
>>>Hi again, Destro. That statute in itself is very unfortunate since PVS diagnosis is so subjective and contraversial. The law should be changed to exclude PVS, imo. And Felos' expert witness, Dr Ronald Cranford, is a euthanasia advocate who doesn't believe Alzheimer's patients nor PVS ones have constitutional rights. He's had patients recover after he diagnosed them as PVS. He declared a patient named Robert Wendland to be PVS even though the man could operate his own wheelchair and pick up colored blocks on command. Thankfully the CA Supreme Court disagreed with him.

The point is, so much is subjective about this whole thing.<<<


Goodness. I would not want this "doctor" around me when I am in a deep sleep.
He would probably rush me off to some court nad say I was PVS. Oops forgot to wake me!

Seems like diagnosing someone with PVS is his forte'. Even Alzheimer's patients should be starved according to him, and this is who the court relied on to give Terri a "fair" examination....just damn.
129 posted on 03/25/2005 11:07:10 AM PST by snarkytart
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To: snarkytart
Seems like diagnosing someone with PVS is his forte'.

It is, he's a professional witness to that end. He's quite a blood-curdling Google.

130 posted on 03/25/2005 11:13:11 AM PST by agrace
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To: sonsofliberty2000
IMHO, our STATE LEGISLATURE is to blame here, they could have passed a law that THE STATE OF FLORIDA wants to err on the side of life. In cases where (a LIVING WILL IS NOT PESENT) and a spouse has abandoned their role as spouse, another family member (who is willing to err on the side of life) will be granted custody their child. This would cover the SCHIAVO case, and any future cases like it. UNFORTUNATELY the Florida Senate (9 RINOS)

Florida State Senate - 9 Rino's to REMEMBER

failed to act, and that is the issue. I believe the courts are correct in the LEGAL sense, and the FLORIDA LEGISLATURE is to blame for FAILING to give the courts a leg to stand on.

133 posted on 03/25/2005 11:38:11 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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Prayer Alert from Pastor Dutch Sheets Regarding Terri Schiavo (Pray against Culture of Death)

Excerpt: "a word Chuck [Pierce] gave about Florida a few months ago. Chuck prophesied, 'A strategy will be uncovered out of Florida that will be very detrimental to our land . . . a strategy that will try to mature to stop the plan for this nation out of Florida, to bring confusion in this land.' Chuck also told me yesterday that when he gave this word, he saw a death structure in Florida that would become an issue before the nation – that death would try to reign from there.

"I feel very strongly that if we don't overcome this spirit of death, a new wave of violence and death will be released across our nation. It could manifest through suicides, terrorism, disease, euthanasia, increased abortions, murder, etc. ...

"Ask God for more time. ... Decree that America's covenant with death will be broken (Isaiah 28:15,18), as well as anything else He gives you to pray and decree. ... Pray for Governor Jeb Bush. Pray that, like the midwives in Egypt, he refuses to honor this decree of death. ... "

134 posted on 03/25/2005 12:03:16 PM PST by GretchenM (Diplomacy is the art of letting the other fellow have your way--former Canadian PM Lester B. Pearson)
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