Oh yes, Pilate. Pilate washed his hands saying there is nothing he can do about it.
This thread is a hand washing thread.
Thank you Michael.
I have heard that if you picture Heaven in you head and make it the most beautiful place you can imagine, the real Heaven will be hundreds of times more beatiful, and it will not lack one thing that will make us happy. I believe that with all my heart. That is what is what is waiting Terri.
Now for a little political commentary from me:
We did every thing we could to save Terri but at this point there is no hope for saving her. The dyeing process in her body has already begun, so we should start speaking about her and this story in the past tense. I feel very sorry for her and her parents and I hope they prevail in a wrongful death lawsuit, but this fight to keep her alive is now getting beyond crazy, and is doing more harm than good for the right to life fight and all conservative causes. I watched ABC & NBC News last night and they were showing a crazed activist that was going on every camera he could find so he could put the blame for her death on Jeb and George Bush because they refuse to send in the military to forcibly rescue her. For the news media this is all about using this to bring down Bush. A payback. Even that supposed memo that surfaced last week stating that the Republicans can use this to their advantage, is now suspected of being a fake and is under investigation. The major media has not mentioned it the follow-up story at all.
Instead we should be focusing on how to prevent something like this from happening again, and most importantly reign in the power these judges now have. When one trial judge has more power than the United States Congress something is terribly wrong. That is not the way it was supposed to be.
Why not let a baby "go home" by refusing to feed it?
I guess you could argue Scott Peterson was helping Lacey Peterson and her unborn child "go home." After all, aren't they better off in God's care than in a household with Scott Peterson?
We can start sending a lot of people "home," especially in view of how cruel is this world and how much better off most folks will be in the next.
When we start agreeing with courts issuing orders not to let food or water pass a human beings lips, for me that is a bridge too far.
When we accept the argument that the marriage contract is not a contract but simply a quaint old custom, I can't agree.
So, rather than let my temper get the best of me on Good Friday, I'll take a break from politics which is probably well needed.
For making me realize that I thank you Mike.
Happy easter, God bless.
Truly there are things of this realm of life worse than the transformation we are given at death. One of those would be having Michael Schiavo as a "guardian" to someone requiring medical care.
Oh yes, Pilate. Pilate washed his hands saying there is nothing he can do about it.
This thread is a hand washing thread.
So you kinda agree with this post then...
God Is Merciful Enough To Offer Life Beyond Feeding Tubes (Christian Must Read)
Posted on 03/23/2005 10:37:27 AM CST by wallcrawlr
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1368873/posts
For my own sake, I want to clarify:
I take as a premise that God is always doing His best for people. That does not excuse manslaughter or homicide. We can rely on God to bring the best out of every situation, for each and for all. (Under this scheme, Hell is the best God can do for people who insist on rebelling against him.) But that confidence, I think, rather than rendering us placid and immobile, will strengthen us to fight the fights we ought to fight.
It should also clarify our vision. Without certainty beyond a reasonable doubt that "no one is home" in Terri's body, to subject her to a death for which we would be imprisoned or fined were we to do it to a dog is a very grave wrong.
Wrong is still wrong, even when God can redeem it.
Is Terri a Christian? Not all disabled people with tragic stories "earn" a place in heaven. If she trusts the Lord, of course, her destiny is a heavenly one....
He's waiting for you also, eh?
Terri Schiavo, centre, poses with her parents, Mary and Bob Schindler, in this undated photo. (AP Photo/Schindler Family, File)
Her wedding picture, how ironic.
I oppose this execution of an innocent civilian... and have throughout. Life CANNOT be defined by convenience. I also question Michael Schiavo's motives here. Having said all of that, I can help but wonder whether the time to rescue her has now passed. I'm wondering if she has physically reached the point of no return in terms of organ damage through dehydration and malnutrition.
Good post.
We have no right to murder an innocent, living human being.
mhking: "...I fear for more tears in our future, thanks to those who would wad up the Constitutional protections and freedoms wrought by the notion of ignoring the rule of law, simply because those in power didn't get their way."
Rush had a lot to say yesterday about the "blatant, blithering ignorance" out there "that is informing people" who would wad up the Constitutional protections and freedoms. Here's a little taste of what he said:
Why Levin's Book Scares the Left March 24, 2005
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com
Excerpts:
Rush: "....Now, I did an interview today, a little interview on the phone with an info babe from U.S. News & World Report. ....the Washington Post ran a story on his [Mark Levin's] book Sunday and they went out and quoted all these legal scholars at Georgetown and Harvard, and they said they're mystified by why this book is there.
They hadn't read the book; they don't intend to read the book, but they just can't believe it. So she was intrigued. "How come a book that is apparently selling so well to make it all the way to #3 in the New York Times list is not being read by a certain segment of the legal community and the public?" ....
...I said, "The reason why the book is doing so well is because it's education. This book that Levin has written, Men in Black [ - How the Supreme Court is Destroying America], teaches people about the Constitution, the founding of this country, and judicial history that used to be taught in schools but isn't anymore because we're too busy teaching about how corporations are destroying the planet via global warming and pollution and all this. We're being taught about Rosa Parks. We've got 15,000 chapters in however many textbooks on how great Bill Clinton was but we don't have any history on the Constitution.
The education on the founding of this country and what makes this country the way it is, is so woefully inept that a book like Levin's comes along and people go shazam! They're hungering for it and they're thirsting and they're reading for it."
She said, "Well, why are so many people ignoring it and playing it like it doesn't exist?" and I said, "Because they're the people threatened by it. They're the elites.
They're the elites, and these people love the fact that the courts are out of control, that the courts are now patrolled by judges who implement their personal policy preferences, and they look at Levin as two things. They look at him as a typical conservative -- which means he's an extremist, hayseed, racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, a bunch of closed-minded bigots -- and the second thing is they fear him because he's a competitor."
I said, "It's no different they're ignoring the Levin book than how they ignore talk radio, or try to impugn talk radio.
They used to have a monopoly. The Democrats in the media used to have a big monopoly." .....
Do you people know how much blatant, blithering ignorance there is that is informing people on this case?
You have genuine glittering jewels of colossal ignorance who think they know it all, forming opinions on this case.
They call here; they talk to me; it's embarrassing. Quite honestly it's embarrassing to listen to some of these people tell me what they think. It's so embarrassing. It seems pointless to argue with them. It seems fruitless.
They don't even have a basis of knowledge and understanding of the court system, Congress and the Constitution where I can even penetrate this wall, this boundary that rejects all facts that might challenge their already-conceived point of view -- and this is largely the fault of the deteriorating public school system in this country.
It's more like an indoctrination system than an educational system, and they're teaching about all these great social causes, and activism, and we heard in the campaign of 2004 that school kids were being taken out -- where was it, in Michigan? -- taken out of class, fourth and fifth graders to go campaign for Kerry, and so forth, and this was called "education" and "part of the process of teaching people about how our electoral system works" and all this sort of thing, it's mind-boggling.
You ought to see people when I start telling them about Article 3, and when I start describing to them Congress has jurisdiction over the courts.
You ought to see mouths fall.
First they get mad and think I'm an absolute idiot and am lying to them just to win the argument. It's stunning. It is stunning. It's like telling people two plus two is four but they think of five all their lives and they damn well are not going to accept that it's four even though it is, and in dealing with it, after four days of this, I will admit to you, folks, I am talked out.
I am frustrated trying to talk to these blockheads about this.
You do not know, folks, you do not know the depths to which I have sunk -- better said, the heights to which I have risen -- to maintain my patience and decorum in dealing with some of this.
Because, frankly, you know, after awhile, it becomes pointless, fruitless and frustrating to talk to blithering ignorant idiots, and they're so all over the place out there that it is just frightening.
It is just literally frightening. And, boy, the left owns 'em.
The left has made 'em, the left has dumbed 'em down, the left has made 'em comfortable being dumbed down, and they own 'em.
But we're not giving up. Don't misunderstand. I'm not suggesting giving up. I'm just being honest with you about how frustrating it has been this week to try to talk to some of these -- not all of them.
Some of them had glimmering signs that they might be receptive and open to certain things but a lot of them, a lot of them -- half the people calling here to argue with me don't even listen to the program, they're just on phone banks out there.
They've been ginned up by the likes of Democrat websites or whatever and it's like running push polls for death, push polls for death are being run out there. Just unbelievable. ..... [snip]
The President and Governor Bush have worked hard on this issue and stated their positions. The Bush men are not like the last administration who do what they want, regardless. The Bush's do what is right without abuse of their powers. Governor Bush had saved her last time, when he could. I believe if he was in the position now to do so, without abuse of power, he would. President GW and Gov. Jeb are good men who always have sided on the side of life. We are fortunate to have them during these times.
Prayers said for Terri and her family. May Terri's life have opened the hearts and mind of people that maybe, her life and being put to death in such a suffering manner, will make laws and make a change that will save people from this fate in the future.
If this article is true then what has been the fuss about all this then? Why just yesterday people were indignant about the evil and injustice that has been done and is still being done to Terri. Now we bow out to let that evil injustice reign? This article just sets up less of a fight for the next Terri Schiavo. And to see the vast majority of posters agree with the authors assessment! I can feel the air being let out of the fight for justice and good. This is a battle that we may lose but we have to come back with a vengeance and force our legislature's to write good laws that reign in bad judges. Don't wimp out on your sense of good and evil and give up now. Keep fighting for good.
I can't think of a better article than this one the liberals would want to read to brighten their day or weekend.
