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To: sasafras
If a law is to kill an innocent person then yes lets do away with it. What is more important an unconstitutional law or the value of life. I am sure you would agree that the DreadScott decision shouldn't of been followed? Or am I wrong that you think that blacks should still be slaves? That was a law and most of America did not want to go to war but we are all glad today that we did, courageous leaders do what right not exactly what a court (of unelected judges) beleive is right.

Please state exactly what law you are talking about, which I truly doubt you can.

What is upsetting to you is your own sense of Moral Outrage, your sense of "Justice". I agree with that whole-heartedly. My sense of justice and moral outrage are equally aroused and angered.

But moral outrage is not the same thing as law.

As for the unelected judges, Judge Greer was elected. He can be ousted from office in the next election, unless the laws governing circuit court judges in Florida is different than here in Indiana.

And it's the Dred Scot decision, which is still applied as such to determine whether an individual is of a certain race. According to Dred Scot, I am an African-American.

160 posted on 03/25/2005 7:08:18 AM PST by Military family member (If pro is the opposite of con and con the opposite of pro, then the opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: Military family member; sasafras
And it's the Dred Scot decision, which is still applied as such to determine whether an individual is of a certain race. According to Dred Scot, I am an African-American.

And therefore you are only 3/5ths of a person. I'm sure you won't mind it the next time they draw the boundaries of your congressional district and you lose your representative. For your sake I am pleased that the Moral Outrage that you dismiss successfully stripped that unjust provision from Dred Scott.

In case it is not becoming obvious, there is a big difference between law and justice. Justice is immutable, and before it the law is expendable.

164 posted on 03/25/2005 7:20:35 AM PST by jboot (Faith is not a work)
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To: Military family member

Dred Scot also determined a persons value? do you disagree?

Do we not treat a judges decision as law? I truly believe that you can not argue out of this one. Hmm lets cite some recent cases by the Mass supreme court to create a law that SCOTUS refused to review. If a judge determines something unlawful his actions are treated as law whether they are or not. This is a law whether defined as such or not. Do you disagree?

We agree that moral outrage is not law - but neither is immoral/unconstitutional decisions. I am not a lawyer but lets be honest, how many decision by the courts have no basis in the constitution? Shall these be enforced? By what authority? It is the constitution which gives credence and authority to our govt., if it is contrary then it should not be enforced.

This is time for Jeb Bush to push the test button on this one - we need this in our history right now - who is in power, the people through our elections or judges who answer to know one and as we have seen have conflicting opinion due to their ignorance and opinion of the establishment for their existence.

Congress has authority over all courts, they issued a hearing and this judge defied this congressional order - he is breaking the law.


166 posted on 03/25/2005 7:25:24 AM PST by sasafras (unity not diversity is what made America great)
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