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Dehydration death called 'cruel, agonizing'
WorldNetDaily ^ | 3/24/05 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 03/24/2005 6:28:20 PM PST by wagglebee

Is pain a factor for Terri Schiavo?

While some news stories have suggested her starvation is painless, the head of the Christian Medical Association is debunking what he calls "the myth" that it does not involve pain.

"Contrary to those that try to paint a picture of a gentle process, death by dehydration is a cruel, inhumane and often agonizing death," said Dr. David Stevens, who says most so-called experts have never seen someone die under such circumstances.

"Unfortunately, having worked for 13 years in Africa, where the most common cause of death in children is dehydration from gastroenteritis, I have seen hundreds if not thousands of patients with dehydration and some of them so far gone, that despite resuscitation attempts, they died."

Stevens, who represents a group of 17,000 physicians, explained what happens with starvation:

As dehydration begins, there is extreme thirst, dry mouth and thick saliva. The patient becomes dizzy, faint and unable to stand or sit; has severe cramping in the arms and legs as the sodium and potassium concentrations in the body goes up as fluids go down. In misery, the patient tries to cry but there are no tears. The patient experiences severe abdominal cramps, nausea and dry-heaving as the stomach and intestines dry out.

By now the skin and lips are cracking and the tongue is swollen. The nose may bleed as the mucous membranes dry out and break down. The skin loses elasticity, thins and wrinkles. The hands and feet become cold as the remaining fluids in the circulatory system are shunted to the vital organs in an attempt to stay alive. The person stops urinating and has severe headaches as their brain shrinks from lack of fluids. The patient becomes anxious but then gets progressively more lethargic.

Some patients have hallucinations and seizures as their body chemistry becomes even more imbalanced. This proceeds to coma before death occurs. The final event as the blood pressure becomes almost undetectable is a major heart arrhythmia that stops the heart from pumping.

But Stevens' statement is contradicted by other doctors.

"The cessation of eating and drinking is the dominant way that mammals die," Dr. Ira Byock, director of palliative medicine at Dartmouth Hitchcock Medical Center in New Hampshire told the Los Angeles Times. "It is a very gentle way that nature has provided for animals to leave this life."

Dr. Robert Sullivan at Duke University Medical Center told the Times that after 24 hours without any food, "the body goes into a different mode and you're not hungry anymore," he said. "Total starvation is not painful or uncomfortable at all. When we were hunting rabbits millions of years ago, we had to have a back-up mode because we didn't always get a rabbit. You can't go hunting if you're hungry."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; dehydration; schiavo; schiavos; schindler; schlinder; starvation; terri; terris; terrischiavo
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To: wagglebee

These experts are both wrong. Dehydration deaths are indeed agonizingly painful while starvation deaths are indeed relatively painless.

If Terri were given water she would survive longer and wouldn't be in as much pain and discomfort. Neither way to die is as painless as hypothermia or drowning.


41 posted on 03/25/2005 7:11:38 AM PST by monday
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To: SavedAndForgiven
" I did a 3 day fast with my church one time many years ago in my younger days, I was a young healthy 21 yr old. It was actually a 21 day fast but i could not make it past 3 days"

Fasting more than one day is very unhealthy. A 21 day fast could cause sever and permanent physical damage. Why would your church want to do that to you?
42 posted on 03/25/2005 7:17:41 AM PST by monday
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To: wagglebee
Liberals feel death by starvation is humane -- and I'm with them. Let's use this humane system of death on all the child rapist/killers on death row. Let's reciprocate the kindness they've offered Terri.
43 posted on 03/25/2005 7:23:37 AM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: monday

Also lets examine all of the instances when people have been stranded at sea and after about a day without water they will begin to drink seawater and die.


44 posted on 03/25/2005 8:38:12 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: GOPJ

I hope that one or more states which executes inmates on a regular basis will introduce legislation to give these murderers a "euphoric" death by starvation and dehydration.


45 posted on 03/25/2005 8:39:56 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
We need to push for it. Let's see if they would really go along with a child rapist/killer being subjected to their "humane solution". I suspect they woulnd't like it -- death by starvation is only for the innocent.

I hope that one or more states which executes inmates on a regular basis will introduce legislation to give these murderers a "euphoric" death by starvation and dehydration.

46 posted on 03/25/2005 8:46:06 AM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: wagglebee
>I hope that one or more states which executes inmates on a regular basis will introduce legislation to give these murderers a "euphoric" death by starvation and dehydration.

Let's pressure our guys to propose it. If it's humane enough for Terri, it's humane enough for the child rapists and killers.

47 posted on 03/25/2005 1:35:10 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: wagglebee
>I hope that one or more states which executes inmates on a regular basis will introduce legislation to give these murderers a "euphoric" death by starvation and dehydration.

Let's pressure our guys to propose it. If it's humane enough for Terri, it's humane enough for the child rapists and killers and others on death row.

48 posted on 03/25/2005 1:35:33 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: DuncanWaring

"I've gone 24 hours without food on several occasions, and was profoundly hungry at that point."

I have gone on a deliberate three day fast two or three times and the hunger did go away after twenty four to thirty six hours, after three days I sat beside someone who was eating bacon and eggs for breakfast and had no desire to join in. Having said that let me hasten to add that I was drinking fruit juice the whole time and the hunger does return later on. Advocates of fasting say that the time to resume eating is when a raging hunger returns. The time without food is said to eliminate toxins from the body. I have not done this in almost thirty years since experimenting with it. I certainly don't believe this is a painless way to die, it is probably excrutiating.


49 posted on 03/26/2005 4:34:33 AM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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