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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
With Hillary on-deck and warming up her swing, we especially can't risk this.

Actually, this is especially the time we can risk it. Believe me, it's would be better to have her in the White House than some RINO who'll pursue much the same policies she would, but without serious conservative opposition (I'm thinking McCain, Romney, Giuliani in particular, but there are more).

397 posted on 03/24/2005 2:50:10 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest
Well, you're entitled to your opinion. I completely disagree. I think if Hillary wins, all the stops would be pulled. "Universal health care" (the socialization of medicine) would be rammed through. There goes 1/7th of the economy and a successful medical industry. The list of what she would do will be shocking. I think it's time to galvanize the country on the side of Conservatism. We're on the way, we just need to keep up the hard work.

But I understand you're argument and hope you're right should that course be realized.
402 posted on 03/24/2005 2:58:14 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: inquest
Actually, this is especially the time we can risk it. Believe me, it's would be better to have her in the White House than some RINO who'll pursue much the same policies she would, but without serious conservative opposition

I bet this thread is making a lot of people here very uncomfortable, and I'm glad.

For too long, we have not talked about many politicians who call themselves Conservatives, but whose actions say otherwise.

In many ways, and I'm just as guilty as anybody else, we are like somebody who is confronted by something that we don't want to deal with, and so we close our eyes and hope it will go away. It won't, and in fact, by our inaction (in this case, our inaction is not talking about the issue), we are only making it worse. In effect, we are encouraging this, because they become a little bolder.

Many RINO politicians take us for granted, because they know that in the end, we'll usually toe the party line, and so they can tailor their messages and policies to people who call themselves moderate or in fact lean to the left of the center.

It's almost like we are facing our own "Great Schism", so to speak.

We have two choices - we can take the next few elections and use them to return the GOP back to the right (pun intended), and it'll be painful as hell, or we can continue to close our eyes and pretend everything is okay, and our children or grandchildren will pay the price (and the taxes).

It's uncomfortable to talk about, but it's good that many of us are talking about it, and that many of us are on the same page.

Even if our numbers are small at first, chances are, proportionally as a group, we probably vote more than most people. That gives us a lot more power than our numbers would indicate. We might even influence others around us to vote the way we vote.

We could do great things, we could at least force the GOP to reconcile it's present state with its Conservative roots, or, if need be, discard the GOP and setup a new party, or bolster an older third party. It's almost ridiculous that we've turned into a two-party system.

If we busted up this little monopoly the two major parties have, we could actually force the politicians in Washington to listen to us a lot more, and they would have to work with more Conservative elements.
411 posted on 03/24/2005 4:13:15 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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