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To: MadIvan
"It's obviously not that clear cut otherwise it would not have taken this long."

Due process then has been observed.

977 posted on 03/24/2005 11:26:38 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Due process then has been observed.

Not if a biased Judge who refuses to recuse himself continues to short circuit the process.

Ivan

981 posted on 03/24/2005 11:28:21 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Due process has been followed? Not really. Greer ruled the witnesses that heard Terri say she would want to live were not credible on the mistaken impression he had that Karen Ann Quinlan (the case Terri was commenting on) was dead in 1982. He therefore ruled that she had to have said it in 1975 (the year Quinlan collapsed and was removed from a ventilator), when she (Terri) was 12, and supposedly unable to form an 'adult' opinion (I note that courts have held that 12 year old girls can make the 'adult' decision to have an abortion). Karen Ann Quinlan actually died in 1985, her friends and parents say Terri said this in 1982. Since Greer ruled that the witnesses weren't credible because of his mistaken impression, they were not allowed to testify to such.

He ruled that since the only 'credible' ones were the husband's brother and his brother's wife (Terri's sister-in-law), she would have wanted to die. So the only testimony the follow-on courts have seen was the testimony that she would want to die. A de novo review (in which this issue could be revisited)was ordered by the Congress, but the courts chose, unlawfully, to ignore that law.
996 posted on 03/24/2005 11:47:17 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Our legal system is in a PVS. Time to remove it from the public feeding trough.)
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