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To: MadIvan

And shouldn't conflicting evidence be judged in favor of continuing life?

Was Michael the only person who testified about Terri's supposed statements on her views about living on life support?

No, others did as well, and when making the decision in the case, the trial judge took into account all of that testimony and additional evidence. And the Second District Court of Appeals determined: that while a surrogate decision-maker should err on the side of life, the trial judge had sufficiently clear and convincing evidence to determine that Terri would not wish to continue the life-prolonging measures she needs to live. The appellate court explained:


[The Schindlers argue that the testimony, which was conflicting, was insufficient to support the trial court's decision by clear and convincing evidence. We have reviewed that testimony and conclude that the trial court had sufficient evidence to make this decision. The clear and convincing standard of proof, while very high, permits a decision in the face of inconsistent or conflicting evidence. See In re Guardianship of Browning, 543 So. 2d at 273.

In Browning, we stated:


In making this difficult decision, a surrogate decisionmaker should err on the side of life… In cases of doubt, we must assume that a patient would choose to defend life in exercising his or her right of privacy.
In re Guardianship of Browning, 543 So.2d at 273. We reconfirm today that a court's default position must favor life.

The testimony in this case establishes that Theresa was very young and very healthy when this tragedy struck. Like many young people without children, she had not prepared a will, much less a living will. She had been raised in the Catholic faith, but did not regularly attend mass or have a religious advisor who could assist the court in weighing her religious attitudes about life-support methods. Her statements to her friends and family about the dying process were few and they were oral. Nevertheless, those statements, along with other evidence about Theresa, gave the trial court a sufficient basis to make this decision for her.

In the final analysis, the difficult question that faced the trial court was whether Theresa Marie Schindler Schiavo, not after a few weeks in a coma, but after ten years in a persistent vegetative state that has robbed her of most of her cerebrum and all but the most instinctive of neurological functions, with no hope of a medical cure but with sufficient money and strength of body to live indefinitely, would choose to continue the constant nursing care and the supporting tubes in hopes that a miracle would somehow recreate her missing brain tissue, or whether she would wish to permit a natural death process to take its course and for her family members and loved ones to be free to continue their lives.

After due consideration, we conclude that the trial judge had clear and convincing evidence to answer this question as he did.


1,077 posted on 03/24/2005 4:02:59 PM PST by KDD
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To: KDD
...robbed her of most of her cerebrum and all but the most instinctive of neurological functions,...

So many doctors disagree with that. Here are a whole bunch of them blogging her CT scan. MedBlog Doc debunks and questions Terri's CT scan. Other docs comment on other problems with it. Great read! Scroll way down to "CSI MEDBLOGS: CODEBLUEBLOG ANALYZES TERRI SCHIAVO'S STARTLING BONE SCAN". There is now a brand new blog at the top stating unequivocally that Terri could not have had an anoxic infarction as has been reported all this time.

1,081 posted on 03/24/2005 4:19:01 PM PST by TigersEye (Muslims and Democrats kill babies for fun and profit. (and cripples))
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To: KDD

First and foremost - Terri is not living on life support. She is merely being fed and given water. She breathes on her own, for example, and is not unconscious. Thus, we do not have her opinion, even orally, as to what to do in this peculiar instance as it is NOT on life support. What is more, is that some of the medical experts cited on this forum do not agree with Persistent Vegetative State diagnosis.

Second, it's very cavalier of you to suggest the court is making the decision for the family in their own interests. Apparently the family does not agree.

Third, you are disqualifying the family's opinion based on consistency, as if Michael Schiavo continuing to call for her to die gains more weight merely because he hasn't shown any nuance or hesistancy in his position. This is sophistry - what's right is right, even if the family has contradicted at times.

All in all, it appears you are willing to tie the law into as many knots as so pleases you, so long as Terri dies. Nothing in the world will make it right, and your arguments are too feeble to shake anyone who remains rational. I am disgusted that you and your kind are going to such lengths to defend this horrific action of starving and dehydrating a woman to death who you cannot say with certainty wants to die. I reiterate - all you can do is reassert that the Florida court thinks she wants to die, but the evidence is too paltry to be certain, and furthermore the Florida courts are suspect because of Judge Greer and the generally dubious behaviour we saw exhibited since the 2000 election.

Even so, it looks like Terri is going to die. You won. You pro-murder folks have your pound of flesh. Enjoy it. But again, nothing, absolutely NOTHING will make it right.

Ivan


1,088 posted on 03/24/2005 4:36:38 PM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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