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The "Right to Die" - the Other Side of the Coin:
WFSB.com ^ | March 24, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 03/24/2005 4:16:28 AM PST by ManHunter

NEW LONDON (AP) -- When Superior Court Judge Patrick Clifford ruled in December that serial killer Michael Ross was mentally competent to accept his death sentence, he relied on the report of a state psychiatrist.

When a second competency hearing is held next month, he will hear from four doctors: two working for special counsel Thomas Groark, one for Ross and one working at Clifford's request. Clifford and the attorneys in the case want to avoid a repeat of January's attempted execution, which was abruptly halted amid questions over Ross' competency.

In February, Clifford appointed Groark to investigate and argue the position that Ross is incompetent, a position that Ross continues to dispute.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: execution; judicialactivism; righttodie
And here we have a convicted murderer, sentenced to death, who welcomes his execution and was pronounced "competent", but the court system is moving heaven and earth to find a reason not to execute him. When did I fall down the rabbit hole?
1 posted on 03/24/2005 4:16:29 AM PST by ManHunter
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To: ManHunter

If Terri were a Harp Seal things would also work out fine for her.

The logic of the moonbat left leaves a lot to be desired.


2 posted on 03/24/2005 4:24:03 AM PST by Tarpon (Hate is not a plan for America)
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The logic of all lawmakers and The President leaves a lot to be desired. Why did they focus on this case, and let a baby die in Texas? Why didn't they pass legislation that stops anyone on life support from being removed from it? Seems to me, this has been more of a political move then a humanitarian gesture.


4 posted on 03/24/2005 4:43:00 AM PST by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: southlake_hoosier

You need to do some more homework before attempting to equate the two events. Such a comparison exhibits only a superficial knowledge of the situations.


5 posted on 03/24/2005 5:18:14 AM PST by cantweall
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To: cantweall
You need to do some more homework before attempting to equate the two events. Such a comparison exhibits only a superficial knowledge of the situations

Amen!

6 posted on 03/24/2005 5:22:14 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: southlake_hoosier
The logic of all lawmakers and The President leaves a lot to be desired. Why did they focus on this case, and let a baby die in Texas? Why didn't they pass legislation that stops anyone on life support from being removed from it? Seems to me, this has been more of a political move then a humanitarian gesture.
That's easy, the baby in Texas had no hope. Medical and ethical teams are tasked by law in Texas to make these kinds of decisions. No lungs, no hope. Sad but that's how it is.

There are clearly enough fishy things about the Shiavo case to warrant a re-look. FL courts have a less than stellar record with judges. Sort of like Atlanta with court house guards.

Read the 14th amendment, Congress is obligated to oversee the courts of all the states to guarantee the rights of citizens are protected. What Congress and the Pres did, contrary to what the media is saying they did, is simply direct the Federal courts to have a look at the Shiavo case from the beginning and make sure no rights were violated. What's so confusing about that -- they simply did what the Constitution said they should do.

Congress can do this in any case they think there may be a problem. For instance, death sentences see an automatic appeal to Federal courts for the same reason. Any citizen can petition Congress, or any Congressmen can similarly put up a bill to do the same. It's the way our Republic should work -- and sometimes does.

Your argument hold no currency with me.

7 posted on 03/24/2005 6:34:43 AM PST by Tarpon (Hate is not a plan for America)
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How do determine that one life is worth keeping and another is not? Don't have to specifically use the Texas child. I am sure we can find another case.

My Mother, and her Brother and Sister had my Grandmother starved to death in a South Holland, IL. hospice in 1998. She was alive and talking until they admitted her there. No partial or complete vegetative state. She walked into the hospice. They just put her in a room and wouldn't let her eat.

My Sister-In-Law was in a DuPage County, IL Hospital 4 years ago. The one day I was there the doctor told her husband, and their kids to go say good bye because she would be dead shortly. Her husband told the doctors to put her on life support, and one month later she walked out of the hospital, and is still alive today.

I have nothing good to say about anyone that would allow a life to expire whether or not they are vegetative, or diagnosed terminal. Who are we to say? If the person is alive they should stay that way.

And I still say the politicians (at all levels) are using this case for their own gain while everyone is focused on this poor lady.
8 posted on 03/24/2005 10:03:36 AM PST by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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You have your opinion, I have my opinion.

I have nothing good to say about people who refuse to allow others to have an opinion.

When it is clearly terminal, that's it, in mu opinion.


9 posted on 03/24/2005 11:36:41 AM PST by Tarpon (Hate is not a plan for America)
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Your experience is very moving and we are sorry you had to endure this pain. We agree folks like your Grandmother should receive the care necessary for them to enjoy and celebrate life to the best of their ability.

<< Don't have to specifically use the Texas child. I am sure we can find another case. >>

The President does not deserve this reaction. Both he and Jeb Bush have gone far and above in their efforts to save TS. Please focus your energy towards those that are culpable.


10 posted on 03/26/2005 5:52:57 AM PST by cantweall
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The President does not deserve this reaction. Both he and Jeb Bush have gone far and above in their efforts to save TS

Others say that Terri's husband has gone far & above in his efforts to kill her.

Why not divorce her? Why did she have a broken back, broken femur,etc. when rescue workers arrived the night of her stroke? Why err on the side of death when no desire of her wish is confirmed from any source, other than a "husband" with another family on the side???

11 posted on 03/26/2005 6:00:55 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: cantweall

FR did find another case:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1384585/posts

Still believe Terri wasn't just a media opportunity?


12 posted on 04/16/2005 2:43:13 AM PDT by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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