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To: PzLdr

What a load of crap. Australia wasn't even in the Empire in WW2. How could Churchill sacrifice it?


10 posted on 03/23/2005 9:32:33 PM PST by Dave Elias
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To: Dave Elias
That'll come as a big surprise to the Australians dug in at Tobruk. Answer is, Churchill refused to release Australian ground, air and naval units in the ETO and ATO to return home once war broke out with Japan. That left the Australians with few troops, air elements and naval elements to combat the Japanese when they moved south into New Guinea and the Coral Sea. It was the U.S and Australians who stopped the southern thrust, and the Aussies I served with flat told me Churchill would have let the Japanese run wild if there was no other course open to him.
11 posted on 03/23/2005 9:43:32 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Dave Elias
Actually Australia was still the the Empire in World War II - Australia had been independent since 1901, but that didn't mean we weren't still part of the British Empire (just as we are now part of the British Commonwealth).

By World War II, Australia was an equal part of the empire (that is, legally speaking, Australia was just an important as the United Kingdom) but it was still part of the Empire. A loose parallel might be drawn by saying that legally Wyoming is as important as New York State, of course - there's a lot of difference between being legally as important and as powerful and significant).

Legally Australia was entitled to have its own defence policy. However the Dominions (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and South Africa) had voluntarily chosen to remain part of an imperial defence system. We were free not to - but we'd decided that we would be involved.

Basically the Empire's defences were considered to be all of one piece, not separate national forces.

Britain was committed to defending Australia from attacks in South East Asia. In return Australia was committed to working to defend British interests anywhere in the world.

What wasn't considered was what would happen if there was a situation where Britain was under threat - and Australia was under threat at the same time.

When World War II started, Australia responded under its obligations to fight in support of Britain - this was done in Britain, and in Africa mostly.

When the war in the Pacific started, Britain was so intent on home defence, it couldn't meet its commitments to defend Australia.

But we were part of the empire and our forces were part of Imperial forces.

12 posted on 03/23/2005 10:02:57 PM PST by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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