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To: Cboldt

My aunt was dying of ovarian cancer. She had tried everything and there was no hope. In the end she was vomiting feces, which I had not know was even humanly possible. It was the worst death I've ever witnessed.

Doctors ultimately inserted a feeding tube. She insisted that it be removed and stopped eating or drinking by mouth, which she was still capable of doing, although with disasterous results. Within a short period of time, she never struggled again or seemed to have any pain and died quickly after that. It was a blessing.

Were there other ways to help her over those final few weeks? Unquestionably. But those other ways are considered unethical.


517 posted on 03/24/2005 4:51:08 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
My aunt was dying of ovarian cancer.

Sounds as though she was clinically terminal. Most patients in that condition voluntarily stop taking nutrients, but do crave hydration.

A sad story, and sorry for your loss. But it is totally irrelevant to the point of causing death, initiating death, with a starvation process.

520 posted on 03/24/2005 5:07:55 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Peach
My aunt was dying of ovarian cancer. She had tried everything and there was no hope. In the end she was vomiting feces, which I had not know was even humanly possible. It was the worst death I've ever witnessed. Doctors ultimately inserted a feeding tube. She insisted that it be removed and stopped eating or drinking by mouth, which she was still capable of doing, although with disasterous results. Within a short period of time, she never struggled again or seemed to have any pain and died quickly after that. It was a blessing.

NOW I see why you want Terri dead. NEWSFLASH...Terri is not your aunt.

528 posted on 03/24/2005 5:31:14 AM PST by bigjoesaddle (Every tool is a weapon if you hold it right.)
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To: Peach; sinkspur; Torie; Cboldt; Petronski; AHerald; Mo1
My aunt was dying of ovarian cancer. She had tried everything and there was no hope. In the end she was vomiting feces, which I had not know was even humanly possible. It was the worst death I've ever witnessed. Doctors ultimately inserted a feeding tube. She insisted that it be removed and stopped eating or drinking by mouth, which she was still capable of doing, although with disasterous results. Within a short period of time, she never struggled again or seemed to have any pain and died quickly after that. It was a blessing. """

INTERESTING, BUT NOT RELEVANT. Terri Schiavo is not in the last stages of terminal illness. She's not even ill - let alone have a terminal disease. But she IS one of thousands of people around the country who have severe brain damage. ARE WE GOING TO KILL THEM ALL? I don't see any logic that allows us to kill Terri but to spare the thousands of others who are in similar physical state - whether it's PVS or minimal consciousness, or whatever it's diagnosed.

THAT'S WHAT THIS CASE IS ABOUT -- whether we start down the path of killing severely disabled people because we've made a determination that they would be better off dead.

You point out that feed tubes are pulled with some regularity from terminally ill elderly people. Whether that's right or wrong - and it depends on the particular circumstances of each case - it simply is not relevant to the question of whether we should start withholding nourishment from brain damaged people who otherwise ARE NOT DYING. That would be a HUGE change in policy in the US. And yes, it would start us down the German road - because this is what Germany did in the 30s - it made a decision that the severely disabled were better off dead. That decision had consequences that didn't stop with the severely disabled.

561 posted on 03/24/2005 9:39:22 AM PST by churchillbuff
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