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DCF Considers Removing Schiavo from Hospice by Force
Palm Beach Post ^ | 3.23.05 | Dara Kam

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by gopwinsin04

State officials say they are considering removing Terri Schiavo from hospice, by force if necessary, despite numerous court orders upholding the removal of the artificial nutrition tube that has kept her alive for 15 years.

Lucy Hadl, secretary of the Department of Children and Families, said Wednesday morning that her staff is relying on a state law that gives the department the authority to intervene on behalf of a vulnerable adult who is 'suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury.'

Hadl said that the DCF would have to file a petition in order to remove Schiavo, but that 'it doesn't mean we'd have to have judicial approval in advance of taking the action if we believed it met the threshold for doing it.'

Hadl said that seven years of court rulings backing Schiavo's husband Michael, in his contention that Terri Schiavo did not wish to be kept alive artificially would not stop the DCF from taking action.

'We're not compelled to look at prior judicial proceedings,' Hadl said.

What we are compelled to look at is the presenting circumstances and any allegiations of abuse and neglect that we have recieved. So we have to deal with those and fufill out statutory responsibility.'

(Excerpt) Read more at palmbeachpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Jimmyclyde

Not by federal courts. It hasn't been reviewed 20+ times anyway. "de novo" still holds.


881 posted on 03/24/2005 8:06:02 AM PST by Solson (The path of least resistance is the path of the loser. - Phil Weltman)
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To: TeethKnasher
Uhggggggggggggg. You lost, get over it guys. The woman got her wish. geez, leave her alone. (No I'm not a troll, I just disagree with you).

Yet ready to get flamed my friend.

Sit back and enjoy, it's kind of fun...

882 posted on 03/24/2005 8:07:50 AM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Fudd Fan

"I have a disturbingly persistent feeling that Terri would die on Good Friday."

I've had that feeling all day as well.


883 posted on 03/24/2005 8:09:02 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: nina0113
What should we do with people who are born disabled?

Irrelevant to the argument.

Disabled people should be protected. However Terri is not disabled. She is brain dead and she does not want to "live" in a PVS.

884 posted on 03/24/2005 8:12:18 AM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: TeethKnasher

LOL! You, my friend, are the DEFINITION of a troll!


885 posted on 03/24/2005 8:23:54 AM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: proud American in Canada

"I thirst"


886 posted on 03/24/2005 8:25:19 AM PST by Timeout (Dean & the Bike Path Left: aging anti-warriors who use "summer" as a verb~~Jonah)
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To: BlackElk

That was (ahem) Anthony Kennedy, CINO extraordinaire...


887 posted on 03/24/2005 8:28:12 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Jimmyclyde

You have diagnosed her as "brain dead?"

Neurologists of some repute disagree. Please, show us your credentials!


888 posted on 03/24/2005 8:30:50 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: proud American in Canada

" I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. " A. Lincoln

He died on Good Friday too. :(


889 posted on 03/24/2005 8:35:49 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Timeout
Stop comparing Terri to Christ, it's ridiculous.
890 posted on 03/24/2005 8:36:35 AM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Jimmyclyde
would people please go wander thru a hospital, because there are many cases of people being brain damaged yet alive, breathing, eating....are we going to kill them as well, because they need help in feeding?

brain dead to me means no brain activity....

if you're going to use the term , please understand it....

people with strokes have brain damage...do you know how many people have strokes every year?

there is a particular type of stroke that effects the brain stem...

sometimes, these people can get up and move about and talk just as anyone can...

the only thing affected is their ability to swallow....when they try it, they choke and aspirate......

are we going to kill them as well, just because they can't eat like you and me?

891 posted on 03/24/2005 8:37:53 AM PST by cherry
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To: Jimmyclyde

I'm no Christian but I see that as a fair comparison. Drawn-out suffering, innocence, being put to death by the law... there are at least a few elements in common.


892 posted on 03/24/2005 8:39:46 AM PST by thoughtomator (Murder by Judges, 1 - 2 - 3, it's as easy to learn as your ABCBSCNNMSNBCs)
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To: ninenot
Please, show us your credentials!

Jimmyclyde, American citizen.

Oh, and I have my eyes that see an individual with very, very little brain activity.

893 posted on 03/24/2005 8:40:30 AM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: gopwinsin04

Go for it, Lucy!!!!!!!!!


894 posted on 03/24/2005 8:42:01 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Jimmyclyde

I see you are still 'minimally conscious.'

http://www.earnedmedia.org/bone.jpg

How did she develop noncommunicating hydrocephalus suddenly on 3/30/90 with 2 normal CT scans on 2/235 and 2/27??

Dr. Boyle at CodeBlueBlog has examined the timeline of Terri Schiavo’s brain scans and found that for the first three days of her hospitalization, her brain scans were normal. Then suddenly, on the sixth day, her brain scan showed evidence of a massive injury. He concludes that Terri was hit on the head and suffered intracranial hemorrhage while in the hospital. On a totally unrelated topic, I wonder if Michael Schiavo was spending any time alone with Terri in her room three to six days after her hospitalization?


895 posted on 03/24/2005 8:42:29 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Modernman
this is not stopping CPR.....this is not refusing antibiotics....this isn't even removing oxygen.....

what Terri had was simple nutrition, used by several hundred thousands thru the years.....

its murder, what they are doing....

repeat...murder...

if she was on a ventilator, and they wanted to stop it, then its entirely differant case.....

but nutrition is not a ventilator......

its murder, and people stand around like its a political issue.....one to be debated....

just murder....

896 posted on 03/24/2005 8:43:30 AM PST by cherry
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To: cherry
I'm not killing anybody.

The courts have decided, after 15 years of wrangling, that Terri's wish was not to live in a PVS.

897 posted on 03/24/2005 8:43:32 AM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Jimmyclyde

Well, Jodi. What do you know about this?


898 posted on 03/24/2005 8:43:43 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: gopwinsin04

Then in the name of God..........DO IT! What are they waiting for???????????????????? this woman is runnign out of time. It's almost 10am here in Colorado which means almost noon there. Are they waiting for a court to say if they can do this or not at noon? Didn't I hear something about that? This is the most horrible thing. The same people taking the side of the terrorists and the rapists and murderers, etc allowing perverts to walk free with no ankle monitors....well, I guess it s easy to allow a young woman lying in a bed with no defenses to just die outright. Ignore the pleas of her sorrowful mother and father. Just let her die and then we're rid of one more human being....


899 posted on 03/24/2005 8:43:55 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: gopwinsin04

Then in the name of God..........DO IT! What are they waiting for???????????????????? this woman is runnign out of time. It's almost 10am here in Colorado which means almost noon there. Are they waiting for a court to say if they can do this or not at noon? Didn't I hear something about that? This is the most horrible thing. The same people taking the side of the terrorists and the rapists and murderers, etc allowing perverts to walk free with no ankle monitors....well, I guess it s easy to allow a young woman lying in a bed with no defenses to just die outright. Ignore the pleas of her sorrowful mother and father. Just let her die and then we're rid of one more human being....


900 posted on 03/24/2005 8:43:55 AM PST by cubreporter
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