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DCF Considers Removing Schiavo from Hospice by Force
Palm Beach Post ^ | 3.23.05 | Dara Kam

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by gopwinsin04

State officials say they are considering removing Terri Schiavo from hospice, by force if necessary, despite numerous court orders upholding the removal of the artificial nutrition tube that has kept her alive for 15 years.

Lucy Hadl, secretary of the Department of Children and Families, said Wednesday morning that her staff is relying on a state law that gives the department the authority to intervene on behalf of a vulnerable adult who is 'suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury.'

Hadl said that the DCF would have to file a petition in order to remove Schiavo, but that 'it doesn't mean we'd have to have judicial approval in advance of taking the action if we believed it met the threshold for doing it.'

Hadl said that seven years of court rulings backing Schiavo's husband Michael, in his contention that Terri Schiavo did not wish to be kept alive artificially would not stop the DCF from taking action.

'We're not compelled to look at prior judicial proceedings,' Hadl said.

What we are compelled to look at is the presenting circumstances and any allegiations of abuse and neglect that we have recieved. So we have to deal with those and fufill out statutory responsibility.'

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Jimmyclyde
Tin foil Wallace, remember the tin foil.

You resort to ad hominem attacks, the last resort of those who lack sound arguments. Par for the course over at DU.

781 posted on 03/23/2005 8:43:55 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Miss Behave
I said take it elsewhere. NOW.

Stop yelling Mom!

782 posted on 03/23/2005 8:44:21 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Jimmyclyde
Stop yelling Mom!

Don't you have some zits to pop or something?

783 posted on 03/23/2005 8:45:26 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: Logos124
I think the better question is "Is or was Terri really in a PVS?" The next question I would ask is "Why is her scumbag of a 'husband' still the guardian?" BTW - these people who think Jeb and the Special Forces will come in at 4 AM fry me! Jeb doesn't have the guts. May God care for Terri, and may Satan accept Michael when the time comes for him. BB62
784 posted on 03/23/2005 8:45:26 PM PST by BB62
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To: Wallace T.
You resort to ad hominem attacks, the last resort of those who lack sound arguments. Par for the course over at DU.

LOL!!

Don't be a baby Wallace. You're the one who was calling me a troll and other things because I wasn't towing the party line...

Ad Hominem indeed...

785 posted on 03/23/2005 8:46:30 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Miss Behave

Dang it, broke my own rule! I admitted the difficulty in starving the beast, did I not?


786 posted on 03/23/2005 8:46:34 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: Shethink13

And you know that it has been rubber stamped how? I do believe that when a case has been looked at as many times as this one has, you need to accept that the judges are making the right decision. If there was even a chance this is not whhat Terri would have wanted don't you think that at least one judge would have ruled in favor of her parents? As I have previosly staed I think Michael Schiavo is a despicable human being, but that does not change the law.

Jefferson was worried about one judge overruling the clear will of the people, not executive trying to overpower the ruling of over twenty judges over fifteen years.

I do not believe Terri Schiavo has any idea what is happening to her. If it can be PROVEN otherwise I would change my position.


787 posted on 03/23/2005 8:46:57 PM PST by Logos124
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To: Shethink13

;-)


788 posted on 03/23/2005 8:48:20 PM PST by Miss Behave (Man who fart in church sit in own pew.)
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To: Shethink13
Don't you have some zits to pop or something?

No,I've had a good week, no flare ups.

But this rash is another story, so itchy...

789 posted on 03/23/2005 8:48:55 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Logos124
Easy now easy...

You're making to much sense...

790 posted on 03/23/2005 8:49:59 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Wallace T.
Judge Greer, empowered by aggrandizing Supreme Courts dating back to John Marshall and in full steam since Earl Warren's court, has overruled both the legislature and the executive branch.

Thanks Wallace T. The courts have long needed a kick in the arse to re-establish a balance of power that has for so long, been out of balance.

791 posted on 03/23/2005 8:50:09 PM PST by budwiesest (As California goes, so goes the whole enchilada.)
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To: truthluva

The head of the DCF is a contributor to Greer's campaign fund.


792 posted on 03/23/2005 8:55:12 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Jimmyclyde

you are an idiot.


793 posted on 03/23/2005 8:56:14 PM PST by Hollyhocks
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To: Jimmyclyde
The judges ruled that Terri's wish was that she did not want to live in a PVS.

Jeb Bush just stated it seems Terri was misdiagnosed as PVS and is actually 'minimally conscious'.

So your contention about all the judge's ruling just lost it's footing.

794 posted on 03/23/2005 8:57:22 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Logos124
And you know that it has been rubber stamped how?

Since Michael started his efforts to kill Terri, how many judges have heard testimony from one or more witnesses on matters related to the case?

Since Michael started his efforts to kill Terri, how many judges have actually seen her in person?

795 posted on 03/23/2005 8:58:05 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: Hollyhocks
you are an idiot.

Ummmm, thank you?

Why am I an idiot?

796 posted on 03/23/2005 8:59:12 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: UCANSEE2
'minimally conscious'.

Oh that changes everthing...

Calling poop gold don't make it so...

797 posted on 03/23/2005 9:00:59 PM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Walkin Man

It would be nice in the world if we all had a mom that just was loved by those around her. If you wanted your mom to die for unsavory reason, like inheritance, would it be okay if you pushed her down the stairs and said she fell. Well, sorry, friend, I see it as Terri being pushed down the stairs. Your mother's condition has no bearing on this case. Think about someone else for a change, instead of your loving family. Think about helping someone else who can't help themselves.


798 posted on 03/23/2005 9:02:30 PM PST by Hollyhocks
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To: budwiesest
THey are giving her MORPHINE so that she doesn't feel the pain, and start going into convulstions while her body starts digesting it's own internal organs in an effort to keep alive.

It's what happens during starvation. Ask any doctor.

Doctor's who claim she is PVS, tell you the part of her brain that feels pain is gone. Same doctors are giving her morphine to hide the symptoms of dehydration and starvation.

It also makes it appear she is braindead (try MORPHINE sometime and try to respond to anyone).

They are murderers, because by giving her morphine they acknowledge their statements about her 'feeling' or being 'conscious' are proven lies. They know her reactions are impeded because of the Morphine and leave that out of discussions about her reactions during this no tube period. MURDERERS FOR HIRE. PAYED FOR WITH TERRI'S OWN REHAB MONEY.

799 posted on 03/23/2005 9:02:30 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: Logos124
Terri Schiavo does not want to be kept alive.

Same evidence each time. No other, no conflicting evidence ever allowed to be acknowledged by the court. When she was transferred to the Hospice, the doctor who pronounced her PVS pronounced she would last 6 months or less. WHY? Because that is what the Florida Law dictates to get her transferred to a hospice (the Suncoast Hospice, the one that FELOS was on the BOD, the Felos that worked in court with Greer to get the PVS as a foundation of the NOT AWARE law which allows you to pull feeding tubes).

So, Terri has lived for 15 YEARS. How do you explain the diagnosis of the doctor that declared her PVS?

800 posted on 03/23/2005 9:06:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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