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Schiavo Videotape Misleading, Experts Say
Reuters ^ | 3.23.05

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:19:08 PM PST by ambrose

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To: ambrose
If I show you a video of someone pointing his dog to a pile of shaggy grass on a golf course, asking "what's that?" - and the dog responds "ruff!"... What does that prove?

It proves that what is on the videotape is alive rather than a "vegetable". Like I said.

Are we going to go through every joke of this sort? ;-)

81 posted on 03/23/2005 2:53:37 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: ambrose
This from the same wing of the MSM that tried ( and failed ) to convince us a few months ago that the Howard Dean "scream" never happened. This story sounds just as lame.
82 posted on 03/23/2005 2:54:39 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Pray for Terri Schiavo)
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To: northernlightsII
Look at the statement by Cranford, look at all the behaviors he dismisses, opening closing eyes.turning head,smilimg laughing,moving parts of the body,making sounds even words sounding. But this is nothing,just confusion for the family. THat guy is dangerous. It has occurred to me what his agenda is.

This is Cranford's objective:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1368567/posts

Cranford is a member of the board of directors of the Choice in Dying Society, which promotes doctor-assisted suicide and euthanasia.

In 1997, Cranford wrote an opinion piece in the Minneapolis Star Tribune titled: "When a feeding tube borders on barbaric."

83 posted on 03/23/2005 2:55:54 PM PST by thecabal
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84 posted on 03/23/2005 2:56:17 PM PST by Lady Eileen (It's legal to murder innocent babies...now the disabled...who will be next. May God save TERRI.)
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To: madprof98

I think it's safe to say the conservatives on the side of allowing Terri food and water are social conservatives. On FR, they seem to be the majority. I honestly don't know how the final outcome of this case will affect how social conservatives will vote. Guess it'll depend on how they rate the sincerity of the Republicans' reactions.


85 posted on 03/23/2005 2:57:00 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: ambrose
Can anybody ever make the argument that starving Terri to death is a good and honorable thing?

Have the courts really followed the LAW? (BTW, NO ONE has yet to explain what LAW the courts are upholding!)

All you people that bitch, moan, and worry about your PRIVACY rights because of the PA pales in comparison to the friggin' courts ordering death by starvation of an innocent person just because of the HEARSAY testimony of a money grubbing PRICK...

The COD has truly arrived...

Hells Bells, there's been revolutions for things much more insignificant than this. We've gotten way to comfortable in our greed and selfishness, let's just continue to sit on our fat asses and do nothing!

Bye, Bye America!

86 posted on 03/23/2005 2:57:17 PM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: dfwgator

How do you know we DON'T know the truth? Are we going to know it when we hear it? Who gets to determine what the truth is? The judge thinks after presiding over this case and having all the evidence presented that he has the truth. Do you see where I'm going with this?


87 posted on 03/23/2005 2:57:21 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: deadhead

Thanks for posting that picture.


88 posted on 03/23/2005 2:57:54 PM PST by Lady Eileen (It's legal to murder innocent babies...now the disabled...who will be next. May God save TERRI.)
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To: sirchtruth

Are you prepared to tell thousands, probably tens of thousands of people who have made the decision to withdraw nourishment for themselves or relatives that their actions weren't good or honorable?


89 posted on 03/23/2005 2:59:22 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

"This from the same wing of the MSM that tried ( and failed ) to convince us a few months ago that the Howard Dean "scream" never happened"

Uh really!! I seem to remember ALL media outlets playing the scream over and over and over ad nauseum


90 posted on 03/23/2005 2:59:39 PM PST by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: Aussie Dasher
they can diagnose a patient without having ever actually met them!

Sounds like about a dozen people on this thread.
91 posted on 03/23/2005 3:00:27 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: northernlightsII
I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't hear those words from that doctor's own mouth because I didn't believe anyone could be so cruel. But yes, he said it.

Expect to hear that doctor "clarify" what he said on later talk show appearances ( if he's smart he will quit while he's behind ). He'll tell us just because he said it, it wasn't what he meant. Yea. Sure. Right.

If I was on the fence about who was right, this doctor would have knocked me over to Terri's side.

92 posted on 03/23/2005 3:02:48 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (Pray for Terri Schiavo)
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To: Trust but Verify
I did read the story, actually. Sorry for the slant of my comment. It’s all in the material one decides to select, isn't it? Here’s what bothers me:

All four of these physicians agree, yet other physicians and health care professionals have expressed less certainty - even contradicted the “experts”.

"Pictures do lie," said Dr. Lawrence Schneiderman, a physician and bioethicist at the University of California, San Diego

Michael Schiavo has allowed no pictures to be taken for 4 years. So which pictures are lying, and to whom? And how is it that all the information provided by the attending nurses has been left out of your post?

Dr. Timothy Quill of the Center for Palliative Care and Clinical Ethics at the University of Rochester in New York, said reporting about the case had confused people.

So what? The issue of her PVS is still very much up in the air.

Whether or not Terry Schiavo is actually in a persistent vegetative state has by no means been decided.

"Anybody who been around patients in a persistent vegetative state knows that it is an unnerving phenomenon because they are alternate between sleep and wakefulness but that have no ability to interact," Quill said in a telephone interview.

Oh, really? Anyone??? All the reports I’m reading indicate considerable responses.

"To the families and loved ones, and to inexperienced health care professionals, PVS (permanent vegetative state) patients often look fairly 'normal,"' Cranford said in a statement.

How utterly patronizing and patrician.

Long story short, here, a one-sided series of “expert” quotes does not do anything to enlighten the issue.

I can’t help but suspect that people who are so willing to ignore even the possibility that Terry’s parents see their daughter and not some vegetable indicates a sad lack of knowledge about UNCONDITIONAL LOVE - and God’s mercy and grace. May he have such on those of you so willing to deprive her of her life.

93 posted on 03/23/2005 3:02:51 PM PST by steenkeenbadges
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To: Trust but Verify

What's the harm in keeping her alive? If they say that she won't suffer during the starvation, then she isn't suffering with the feeding tube. Before they put criminals to death, first, they must be found guilty beyond reasonable doubt, then go through endless appeals. Why is that? Because there is the possibility that there was a mistake in the legal process. Now with Terri, it's double-edged. Not only is her life in the hands of medical "experts", but legal "experts" as well. That only compounds the possibility that somewhere, there was a mistake.


94 posted on 03/23/2005 3:03:23 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: HostileTerritory

"Sounds like about a dozen people on this thread."

Sounds like MOST people on all the Terri threads, on both sides of the issue. I for one would like to see CAT/MRI scan to see if there really is any brain function.


95 posted on 03/23/2005 3:03:27 PM PST by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: Trust but Verify

There's no proof that Terri did that. Only the word of a philanderer who stands to gain from her death and his brother. Will those thousands of people write their wishes down?


96 posted on 03/23/2005 3:04:02 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: HostileTerritory
Just announced on Radio: A Judge (unamed) in Florida just ruled that the Department of Child and Family Services is not allowed to intervene in this Schiavo case.
97 posted on 03/23/2005 3:04:49 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Trust but Verify
Are you prepared to tell thousands, probably tens of thousands of people who have made the decision to withdraw nourishment for themselves or relatives that their actions weren't good or honorable?

If they act like Michael Schiavo, unquestionably.

98 posted on 03/23/2005 3:04:52 PM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: Ignatius J Reilly
Have you seen that particular video? It's extremely compelling. Take a look. The doctor (one of Michael's by the way) making the request is quite tickled by her response.
99 posted on 03/23/2005 3:04:56 PM PST by agrace
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To: isthisnickcool
Someone that has PVS. [Gore]

No, he's got Dutch Elm disease.

100 posted on 03/23/2005 3:05:22 PM PST by rustbucket
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